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2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10 f10 530i (new & waiting to modify)! |
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07-15-2012, 10:28 PM | #1 |
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f10 530i (new & waiting to modify)!
Hey bimmer pros, i just bought this new 530i in HK and want to trick it out..any suggestions out there? i love the wald international body kit but its a bit expansive..would love to hear some suggestions!! Thanks. love
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07-16-2012, 04:16 PM | #3 |
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good choice, we've got a 6 week old 530i F11
it feels like a classic smooth and powerful 5 series engine
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07-16-2012, 10:15 PM | #4 | |
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530i is very rare here cos 528i N20 is 14% cheaper due to tax rebates. |
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07-16-2012, 10:17 PM | #5 | |
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Are they even allowed to do that?? |
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07-17-2012, 12:39 PM | #6 | |
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BMW has never sold N53 on the F10 outside of EU, even Japan-spec uses N52. |
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07-17-2012, 01:14 PM | #7 | |
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Are the e90/92 330i @272PS N52s too? Always thought they got N53 |
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07-17-2012, 03:36 PM | #8 | |
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HK-spec E9x never had N53, they were all N52. E60 LCI 530i did get 272ps N53, even for HK-spec, so the F10 is a step backwards in terms of engine tech for markets outside EU. |
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07-17-2012, 05:44 PM | #9 | |
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I always found this funny that the initial f10 got n52 but the older e60 late models got N53.. at least early 528i N52ers have nothing to complain about, even now you can still get the 1st yr 528s w/ N52 (but called 530i) at the 'old' price, just the new n20s get rebates, but the new 528 w/N20 is totally overpriced BMWhk swallowed at least half of that rebate at the list price of 550k or whatever wonder if anyone in HK will be rash enough to go out and buy '530i' badges for their early 528s |
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07-17-2012, 11:58 PM | #10 | |
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528i N20 is not really overpriced as pre-frt rebate it costs $623k, with the same equipment spec as 528i/530i N52. This is $10k cheaper than 530i N52. In Germany, 528i N20 is 800 Euros cheaper than 530i N53, which compares well with the price difference in HK. |
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07-18-2012, 11:56 AM | #11 | |
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Didn't know about that. what about the 300 does it have that? Relative thinking of R300 facelift Thought it was a little more diff in euro between 528i and 530i, when i compared the 528i went down in price a little and the 530i increased (from N52 528i) Perhaps i just don't like it I still think its just a 520i with software.. |
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07-18-2012, 12:22 PM | #12 | |
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E300BE CGI uses the same engine as E350BE CGI, just detuned to 252ps. Again leanburn mode is disabled hence no frt reduction. R300 uses the old M272 engine & hence not the same as C/E300BE CGI. In EU the 528i before N20 has always been N53, so transition from 528i N53 to 530i N53 is just a matter of engine tuning. Price was increased but only minimal. 528i N20 compared to 520i N20 is not simply just software tuning. Some have different turbo & different engine block. If they're the same then Kelleners would not have quoted different figures for both engines. Also the cost of the engine itself is not necessarily lower for the N20 as it has a turbo plus all those components for direct injection. I think if BMW made the N20 as a 6 pot turbo then there'll be less resistance from diehard straight-6 fans, but then again it'll be less efficient. |
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07-18-2012, 12:51 PM | #13 | |
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R300 still gets rebate with the old 300 engine? I really want to know what exactly is different between the 520 and 528 n20 engines. It would make sense for some physical difference, but don't they also try to homogulate everything? If they are the same, I think the tuners would play along and not give similar outputs to ruin the 'game'. Now just give us some software to de-tune the N52 and let it rev another 1k rpm and get 300PS |
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07-18-2012, 11:56 PM | #15 | |
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R300 doesn't get rebate, none of the R-class is eligible for rebate. The N20 is similar to MB's M271Evo, the lower powered versions cannot be tuned like the higher powered version cos I think they bin the engines by output in the first place. For the N52 it's difficult to tune unless big changes are made, which may affect reliability & driveability. |
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07-19-2012, 12:26 PM | #16 | |
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But if the N20's aren't the same, why wouldn't they use the 1.6T for the 520s since they aren using 2.0T for 528i - there seems to be some incongruency, other than for cost efficiency why would they still use the 2.0T for the 520i? Unless they wanted to give more to the consumer, but then why would they give the 2.0T to the N20? I wouldn't mind reducing the N52s life to 10+yrs don't you think it could that given what they do to the other engines? I don't care for fuel efficiency just let it rev out pls. Although i only went to redline a few times, i think it cuts out unceremonious with an automatic downshift once its hits 6700rpm .. very dissapointing i wish it could bounce around up there like in those videos of old inline6 M engines |
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07-20-2012, 05:46 AM | #17 | |
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It isn't easy to tune N52 & N53 as they have probably the highest output for that engine displacement in the world (mainstream cars I'm talking abt). Also that magnesium alloy block may not be friendly to tuning (i.e. N54 uses different block). Also the revs are limited by the design of the Valvetronic system. |
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10-04-2012, 09:40 PM | #18 |
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its seriously a shame that the new 530i in HK is really a old 528. Anyways, i bought it and its still a great car! i ordered the wald international kit already hoping it will look better! guys i need some professional help on seeing how i can tune the car and get more out of it! any suggestions? ecu upgrade or anything?
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