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02-19-2012, 12:13 PM | #23 |
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I think the Subie will outsell the Scion due to branding, as well. I think they may end up with differant suspension tuning, so we'll see. I don't think it will be easy to hit $30k from my talk with the rep at the show. Should be easy to get the important sport bits (like Alcantara/Leather seats) for close to 26k MSRP.
200HP on a 2700 lbs car is not too bad. Look at the praise the 328i is getting with 240HP and 3400lbs. They will definately be coming out with a higher output engine and if not, then the aftermarket should be able to get another 20-40hp easily, then is should be plenty brisk. Kinda like a permanant hard top S2000 or Miata.
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I do not understand why this car is so badly recieved from the BMW owners and fans. I have always dreamt of one day owning an M3, but I could not manage to afford the M3 E92. I have been waiting for such a car, not a fast one but a car that is fun like the original M3 E30. I have been waiting for the Z2 but it did not come. The BRZ/GT86 a better track car than anything BMW has to offer right now. If you want fast laptime, so you better get a Prosche than a BMW or even a GT-R. I do not need 500 PS, 200 PS are enough for alot of fun for little price. Seeing all these negative comments about a car that Chris Harris has loved very much, I can understand why BMW has no interest in building any M CSL or any Z Coupé, but prefere heavy weight M5, X5 M, X6 M, 5 GT and even FWD 1 Series. BMW will have only on Z car, the Z4, and soon 5 X cars, X1, X3, X4, X5, X6 and maybe even X7.
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i like it...pretty well priced as well
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by the time i get back to the States (in a few years), i'll have so many options as a DD & a track toy. Cant wait!!!
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The BRZ is not for anyone. Not anyone will appreciate the light, agile, lower center gravity type of car.
I hate to say this, but alot of BMW owners are over their heads. They are so cocky that they think BMW is the ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE. I have owned 3 bimmers up till now. E36 M3 coupe, E39 540i M-Sports and my current E90 335i. Of course, we all like powerful cars. But I cannot even go WOT with the 335i without breaking the speed limit within like 2 seconds (local street of course.) The 335i just feels so heavy and just not as fun as the E36 M3. I really missed my E36 M3 with just enough power. Pulling the motor to the redline and feel so light driving around. And the E36 M3 weights in @ 3200 lbs. As long as the BRZ keep its weight around 2700 lbs, the car should be heck of fun to drive. Last edited by VIPLINE; 03-02-2012 at 03:41 PM.. |
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I know exactly what you mean. I really miss being able to row through the gears without committing a felony by 4th.
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Don't get me wrong tho, a 128i is just as capable of reaching illegal speeds in 2nd if not 1st just as the 135i is. That is why I am now moving to a car that handles like a dream like the s2000. |
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Wow, what a piece of junk right? It's not like it's a BMW or anything- how could you even fathom buying this? It's going to be a track monster, cost less than a civic Si, and most likely end up as the next "Miata" of track cars.
Of course- it's garbage, because it's nothing compared to a used 35k M3. Ugh, we drive BMW's- not supercars.
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So is the Fiesta, but I guess some cars have other qualities than just HP.
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Wow I cant wait till this comes out. Owning a E30 M3. I miss the light feeling of throwing into a corner and finding that balancing act of drifting and grip. One car that can make you look and feel like a superstar. What alot of people miss that on the track.. power isnt everything. You get into a tight course. Say bye bye to your 400-500hp and these 200hp little cars are pushing you. I cant wait till this is out. I can only imagine what kind of track toy this will be. I might have to buy one lol.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/25/s...-new-document/ Also at 26k it comes with Nav Bluetooth and HIDs according to autoblog. The only real options I would want anyway. Perfect car as far as I am concerned. I love my e30 beater and my e36 is nice but lately I have been driving my e92 more and more. I don't want to rack up the miles but I want something a bit nicer and fun to drive. I thought about another e36m but I already know if I do that again Im going to strip it and track it just like I did last time lol source for price/equip statement http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/05/2...25-495-w-poll/ |
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