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01-24-2013, 01:28 PM | #1 |
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BMW 5 Series LCI Facelift Spied Again and First Look at Plug-in Hybrid F10
BIMMERPOST NEWS BMW 5 Series LCI Facelift Spied Again and First Look at Plug-in Hybrid F10 We've spied the upcoming LCI facelift updated 5 Series again, and the sighting comes on the first Plug-in Hybrid 5 Series we've spotted. The LCI update will facelift the entire 5 Series lineup, including the F10 sedan, F11 touring, F07 GT, and the F10 M5, although the styling updates do not look to be too drastic. Also see: Previous F10 5 Series LCI Spy Photos EXTERIOR The F10 LCI prototypes spotted thus far have shown slightly sportier side mirrors, with integrated turn signals (still camouflaged on previous prototypes seen). Some LCI prototypes have been spotted with a new optional LED headlights option with squared off angel eyes/corona rings. The standard xenon lights (as spotted on this prototype) will retain circular angel eyes. The tail light graphics will receive a new look. The front and rear bumpers will also receive styling updates. We can already make out one of the biggest styling changes in the front fascia - a new character line appears between the upper part of the kidney grilles and the area right above the headlights, which should give the headlight/grille area a more aggressive look. The M Sport package aero parts should also receive a slight refresh, as well as the F10's optional M Performance accessories parts. POWERTRAIN The updated F10 5 Series will cure one of the F10's main complaints - poor steering. The F10's steering is being re-engineered to be more communicative. The changes will also apply to the touring and GT models. The 535i models may receive the inline turbo 6 cylinder engine which will replace the current N55 and is expected to debut in the F32 4 Series Coupe. Expect the 550i models to be powered by the uprated V8 N63Tu (the update to the N63 engine) which recently appeared in the F07 550i GT and is good for +45hp / +30 lb-ft torque over the N63 engine. PLUG-IN HYBRID This sighting represents our first look at a plug-in hybrid 5 Series prototype. Back in 2011, BMW unveiled a F10 plug-in hybrid prototype at the Shanghai Auto Show. It was slated for production in 2013 and only for the Chinese market. Whether it's offered for the rest of the world at some point remains to be seen. Plug-in hybrids work in a similar way to the standard hybrid vehicle. They are also fitted with an internal combustion engine and one or more electric motors. But, unlike standard hybrid cars, plug-in hybrids derive most of their power from the electric motor, which acts as primary, while the internal combustion engine acts as back-up. The plug-in hybrid requires a power outlet to get the battery charged to full capacity. Still, as the battery gets low on power, the internal combustion engine kicks in and takes over, at the same time recharging the battery. When the battery is depleted, the plug-in hybrid starts acting as a regular hybrid, with the combustion engine taking the role of primary power source. TIMING We have information which shows production for the F10 LCI as beginning in July 2013, with deliveries starting in August/September of 2013. F10 M5 The F10 M5 should see the same lighting updates (headlights, tail lights, and perhaps integrated turn signal in its mirror), and potentially the new character line between the grilles and headlights as well, but we expect it to retain its current front and rear bumper designs. Overall, the F10 M5 should receive minimal exterior updates. Whether the M5 gets the updates at the same time as the 5 Series, we do not yet know. |
01-25-2013, 05:26 AM | #2 |
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Can't wait to see it.
Hope the changes won't be as wont be as bad as the E class. That redesign looks horrible.
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01-25-2013, 08:33 AM | #4 |
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Thanks Jason for the new thread.
I think this LCI is going to freshen up the look, and my hope is retain the natural character and emotion that the car gave the public in 2010. When it first debuted, we thought it was a winner. Imagine this 2014 just refining the car, not re-inventing the look. I have a feeling better seats, steering wheel on the base car would go a long way with sales. The handling can always be improved. If they do dial in more sport to the car, its a win win for the brand. |
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01-25-2013, 10:15 AM | #5 |
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No sight of the LCI m-sport yet?
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Aesthetically, can't really improve on it. I still think the F10 is the best looking in the class.
Mechanically, I'm sure there are a few things to fix, mainly the steering system for those who have test driven the F10 and believe it's too soft or whatever. |
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would be interesting to see how they can further improve on the electrical steering. Maybe they would also introduce pipe in sounds for the N20's
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A PHEV will have to have a much larger electric motor compared to the ActiveHybrid if it's to stand any chance of giving a BMW experience while on electric power. This should bridge the N20 vs N55 performance gap. |
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01-25-2013, 12:47 PM | #11 |
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You say plug in hybrid. I say more weight.
Once again I am going to praise BMW for not letting ego get in the way of acknowledging that the F10's steering is not good. |
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Certainly nothing worth holding up an order.
The only interesting reveal is confirmation of what we all pretty much know. That BMW fibs, fudges and lies about horsepower outputs since they reintroduced turbocharging. Terry Burger finally put a stock N63 on his dyno and it was producing more horsepower and torque than advertised. I trust his numbers because of his extensive work on the n54 and n55. This goes back to 2006/07 when BMW gave the new 335i sedan to Car and Driver for the time and they were pulling sub 4.5 second 0-60 times so they decided to put the car on a dyno and discovered she was making 40+ more horsepower than advertised. The automotive press concluded that BMW didn't want to poach into their M line. |
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Maybe it's just an impression (still too much camo), but it seems that there is much darker inside the xenon headlights than in current F10 (black instead of grey?)
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01-25-2013, 07:51 PM | #22 |
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This car is a winner for BMW - I don't see a ton of changes happening. Some slight touch ups here and there. I wonder if the M5 will get any upgrades like seats, steering wheel, etc.
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