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12-01-2015, 06:32 PM | #1 |
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Run Flat to Conventional Tire Difficulty at Dealer
Anyone ever have difficulty with your dealer when going from run flats to conventional tires?
Service advisor states not able to install conventional tires because car came with run flats. Parts department, however, states able to obtain and sell any tire that fits. I'm trying to get wheel and tire insurance to replace bubbled run flats with conventional tires, but if I can’t get same now, I'll go through Tire Rack when wheel and tire insurance ends in a month. Guess I'm wondering if there's any specific rule (BMW's own or otherwise) against dealers installing conventional tires on cars that came with run flats? Thanks! |
12-01-2015, 07:33 PM | #3 | |
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They want to sell you more expensive runflats. If the car is leased, technically you need to turn it in with runflats, but other than that they shouldn't have any issue with installing non-runflats. You can usually get a better price from Tirerack and have the tires shipped to a local installer anyway (or even a local tire shop). Its best if the installer has a leverless tire machine so they don't scratch your rims. |
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12-01-2015, 08:44 PM | #4 |
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My dealer has put a few sets of Pilot Super Sports on mine. Your tire warranty may have language that requires you to go with runflats but otherwise no reason they can't install non RFT.
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Otherwise, yes, will use Tire Rack upon insurance expiration if insurance doesn't permit change at this time. Ugh. Hmm. Will have to look into this further! |
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12-03-2015, 03:35 AM | #6 |
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Costco has a similar policy- no replacing RFT with conventional "because it's a safety issue." Whatever. However, in my case I talked with the manager and he did it anyway.
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12-03-2015, 04:17 AM | #7 |
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So they don't sell M cars then since these don't come with runflats... Wonder if they do tell a potential M client that the car is not "safe" to drive...
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12-03-2015, 10:41 AM | #8 |
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OP if your car is a lease and you plan on returning it after your term is up, then I'd recommend that you have the wheel and tire insurance replace them with another set of run flats.
Run flats are expensive compared to normal tires. I was just shopping for rears and if I'm going to put run flats just for the rear two its going to run me $900, if I put Michelin pilot super sports non run flats it'll run me $650 for both. Point is, if you're returning the car you have to return it with the same type of tires that came on the car. If you don't like them still have the insurance swap them out for run flats and then take them off yourself. You could possibly even sell them for more than what non run flats will run you Last edited by 4MULA_1; 12-03-2015 at 03:23 PM.. |
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We are all "engineers" and "experts" here, but the truth is we are (most of us) just everyday enthusiasts who share an interest in our cars, but without technical knowledge. So we don't know what tuning has been done to the suspension and safety features of the car by BMW when they added run flats. We all just assume they put them on to save money and weight to improve fuel mileage, or for some other nefarious reason. Maybe the suspension will react differently in an extreme maneuver if the car is fitted with non run flats? I don't know the answer, but I remember watching an M5 video with the head developer from BMW answering journalists questions about why "this was done or that was done". It was clear that the engineer had reasons well above what the average enthusiast would contemplate.
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This was my first thought. Other than that, I put non-RFTs on 5 Series all day! No issues. The ride will greatly improve when you put the non-RFTs on!
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12-04-2015, 01:18 AM | #14 | |
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Also, willing to bet that when BMW CAFE tests their cars without spares, they run them with conventional tires, as run flats are heavy, and such weight is magnified due to its unsprung nature. Awful. |
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12-04-2015, 01:57 PM | #16 |
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I did replace my RFTs with non-RFTs at Costco (USA) without any issue.. it might be specific to some warehouses i think..
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What size tires were u able to get from them?
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12-04-2015, 11:27 PM | #18 |
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After TREMENDOUS back and forth, got approval.
Insurance agreed to substitute Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 conventional tires for my Goodyear Excellence run flats, and dealer FINALLY agreed to order and install same. Can't wait to experience the handling, comfort and winter performance (with xDrive) I should've had for the past 5 years. Picking car up tomorrow. Will report back. |
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12-05-2015, 09:23 PM | #19 |
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DAY AND NIGHT DIFFERENCE! FAR quieter, FAR smoother; immediately noticeable.
Known road imperfections and minor manholes now unnoticeable. Car absorbs all the way a full-sized luxury sedan should. I've driven in Comfort since new, which almost seems too soft now. That said, not sure if it's the tires or because I returned a loaded 435i M Sport loaner [that I drove in Sport], but steering now seems a bit less precise. Not numb, not spongy, but less precise. Not wandering, but not sure how else to describe. Could this be because the tires aren't broken in yet? Can anyone confirm if this improves in a couple hundred miles? In sum, happy for now! Two more points: Run flats are almost double the weight of conventional tires(!); upon new tire drop off, recouped one undamaged run flat, and the weight was surprising! AND, saw a 435i Individual in the showroom and thought the leather weave on the doors was awesome; very Bottega Veneta! Last edited by dbs600; 12-10-2015 at 01:25 AM.. |
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12-06-2015, 12:57 AM | #20 |
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Also the new tires stick out past the wheels a bit more instead of wrapping them like a rubber band.
Should help protect against some cosmetic wheel damage. After driving more, feel like my car is saying thanks after what was abuse by the run flats. Last edited by dbs600; 12-07-2015 at 06:13 PM.. |
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12-07-2015, 12:52 PM | #21 |
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Really? Costco didn't say anything to me when I purchased a set of Pilot Super Sport from them.
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12-07-2015, 01:17 PM | #22 |
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