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The "frustration" I feel and I admit, is based on former statements of Dukec and Van Hooydonck wrt the G8x grill, like: "we are fine with just 20% endorsing it" or "we don't do car clinics since the FB is crap anyway". So BMW just admits that they don't care what we think. I had the impression in the past they did. I can follow your reasoning, this is not a car for the masses, and seen the specific high end target group, it will most probably sell beyond expectations! It certainly makes a visual statement and it will be packed with technology. When you search for something different, this is certainly candidate! |
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Compared with e46, e90, F36 these were beautiful evolutionary cars with a design ethos and a theme or themes that aided how those cars DROVE, BMWs were beautiful AND great to drive. Such a shame
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11-30-2021, 05:10 PM | #249 |
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What a troll-y comment. Even if I hated the design, the design is not the only reason I buy a car, I'd still buy this for the tech, performance, and the way it would drive. This car will be 750+ HP and it will most probably the best driving SUV to buy. Design isn't everything, being stuck in toxic hate for something regarding the design and ignoring everything else, isn't normal. I mean, if you only care about design, why BMW anyway? They're never been the prettiest cars in the world.
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When you go this high in the market, design can be provocative and disruptive. Those buyers probably won't appreciate too much associations with the lesser BMWs and their heritage? |
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11-30-2021, 05:25 PM | #251 |
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I disagree. If you look at Facebook, instagram accounts of BMW where this car was shared, way more people liked it or loved it than dislike or 'laugh', but then when you look at the comments section, you only see hate. Haters are louder and definitely more expressive.
Also they're usually shallow, childish, and toxic. Instead of saying, "it's not for me, I'll pass", you see a bunch of self-centered assumptions, insults on people who like it, attacking designers and calling them to be fired (because they're design experts), attacking BMW and suggesting "they lost it what they were thinking" (They're also BMW and business experts), weird inaccurate comparisons with ugly cars, (Like RAV 4 here, which looks NOTHING like this car), all under the a assumption that their opinion is the only true opinion and that you can only be an idiot to not agree with them. This is a mental condition that Internet gave us, unfortunately. Those who are positive on the other hand, are timid against this hate, they don't want to be involved. What you usually hear from them, are some 1-2 sentences like: "I don't know I kinda like it, what's up with all the hate" sounding almost like they're in doubt with themselves, after seeing the flood of hate and weird attacks.
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It’s polarizing….which is the point. And while I’m not 100% bought in it’s clear why the designers felt like they needed to go in this direction.
Cars are about to become indistinguishable gigantic skateboards. The days of engineers pushing inline 6s to their brink and cranking out physics altering booming V8s are almost over. That differentiator is pretty much gone. Battery tech is going to even the playing field. And no amount of journalists marveling at how a Taycan ‘feels like a Porsche’ is going to change that. Hyundai can crank out a 1000HP 0-60 in 3 seconds electric sports car without needing the hundreds of years of brand pedigree. You’re looking at the differentiator right here. BMWs Visual design and engineering resources to push and pull and bend materials to their brink on full display. And technology sealesseLy integrated. Apple is confident they can bring a car to the market for the exact reasons I stated above. This is the future. If you don’t like it go buy a e92 or a e39. Or maybe grab a competitors car while you still can. Because soon they are all going to go in this direction. Last edited by OSee; 11-30-2021 at 05:41 PM.. |
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They would all be hated if they were released now. Probably by a different crowd.
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I believe you underestimate the momentum BMW was able to build then with those designs. I literally never talked to anybody NOT entirely loving these designs back then (people between 40 and 60 that is). It was so massive that still today many of them are still going weak on encounters. I doubt that for instance a G30 will have the same effect for so many years to come.
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11-30-2021, 06:07 PM | #259 | |
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Back in the 90's when I was a kid, BMW had some really beautiful cars on the road like the e34 and the e39. These two cars made me a die hard BMW fan. I loved the way they looked and they made me dream of the day when I would own a BMW. I had posters of these cars in my room and it wasn't because they were engineered especially well, it was all about the design. A well built car is not what comes to mind when you feel passionate about cars. Toyota have best built cars in the world and they will last for a lifetime, nothing you can say about a bimmer, that doesn't make us enthusiastic about toyota, does it? I feel sad for kids who will grow up to recent BMW design. |
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That 7-series was a masterpiece in design! The art of combining elegance with sporty athletic attributes.
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Lol im loving all the 'haters gon hate' comments, are you ppl 13 yr old girls or something??
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So I don't like this much at all and I also don't like the G80, but other than those (ohh and the first gen X3 was ugly) I like the design of every other BMW - even the i3 which I know is very polarizing
However, the wife is from Iran and she likes the X4, X6, G80 and this new XM. She gets excited whenever we see a Velar, X6 and other similar SUVs that I suspect the majority of people here would dislike. We need to get a new car for her soon and I want to buy her a G31 540i or G21 340i. However all that she wants is an X3/4/5/6 and now THIS THING. Even though I don't understand this it seems that some people will just like this sort of thing as the newest and most unique thing out there. FWIW she has a manual at the moment and is looking to get a Triumph Rocket 3 soon. She also loved getting the Lego Chiron as a present so it isn't that she isn't interested in cars at all but she likes these somewhat vulgar SUVs. I don't want her to ever find out what a Urus or DBX is but for the moment she wants an XM....I'll just buy her the Citroen
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