[JerseyM3]

Does it make sense to add a coat of wax when the paint has a ceramic coating, or another coat of ceramic is the way to go?

[Venti26M2CS]

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

Does it make sense to add a coat of wax when the paint has a ceramic coating, or another coat of ceramic is the way to go?

Sure. What’s your reason tho? Protection or looks?

For looks, a good coat of carnuba can’t be beat for that dripping wet gloss. And absolutely no problem to do that on top of a ceramic coating.

For protection, wax won’t offer protection for very long. So if that’s your goal, another coat of ceramic is the way to go.

Either way, make sure your maintenance washes are with a ph neutral soap like carpro reset, or there’s a ton of other options out there.

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

Does it make sense to add a coat of wax when the paint has a ceramic coating

It is possible, but not necessary.
Whichever layer of "protection" is shortest lasting (wax), will disintegrate first. So layering shorter lasting wax on top of longer lasting ceramic coating has no downsides, other than the time and effort you will be invested. Some waxes might provide a "deeper" shine to the paint, but we are splitting hairs here.

All this assumes that you will diligently clean the ceramic coating first, otherwise, you will be scratching everything my moving dirt around while applying wax.

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

or another coat of ceramic is the way to go?

You could do that, but it's unlikely to be a good idea.
1). If the old coating is failing, you want to remove/strip it before applying new coating. Else, the old one will continue failing and will undermine the bonding between the paint and the new coating.
2). If the old coating is NOT failing, it will still fail sooner than the new in the future. Revert back to scenario #1 above.

If you just want to "maintain" it after washing, there is a ton of inexpensive ceramic ceramic infused spray-on products out there (I will link a few below). You can just mist those on the paint after washing, and it will make the old coating look and bead water like new. For a few months.

https://adamspolishes.com/products/a...b27d9f5e&_ss=r
https://adamspolishes.com/products/g...b27d9f5e&_ss=r
https://www.griotsgarage.com/ceramic-3-in-1-wax/

HTH,
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[JerseyM3]

Thanks for the replies. I think since the work to do a wax coat is close to another coat of ceramic, i may lean on that instead. Can you clay or decontaminate over a ceramic coat or will it damage it?

[Phillies8008]

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

Thanks for the replies. I think since the work to do a wax coat is close to another coat of ceramic, i may lean on that instead. Can you clay or decontaminate over a ceramic coat or will it damage it?

If you clay it you're going to take the coating off. Really, all it should take is a good wash.

[Tobster3]

I would not put a coat of Wax on. You can add to the Ceramic Coating by using something like CarPro Reload which is a Sio2 quartz spray.

https://www.carpro-us.com/protection...As0isqc5uNqQuX

[avi66]

Just use a good value spray coating on top, such as Turtle wax Hybrid Ceramic spray coating, it’s relatively cheap, easy to apply, long lasting and effective under test.

[chowser51]

just toss on an sio2 or graphene based detailing spray when you dry the car after a wash

[JerseyM3]

I like chemical guys products and I do use their spray on ceramic coats. Just was wondering if wax leaves a thicker level of chemical protection than a spray. Its gonna be bird sh!t season soon.

[Phillies8008]

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

I like chemical guys products and I do use their spray on ceramic coats. Just was wondering if wax leaves a thicker level of chemical protection than a spray. Its gonna be bird sh!t season soon.

Wax generally doesn't offer much protection but is rather for appearance's sake. Ceramic will fill that role much better.

[avi66]

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

I like chemical guys products and I do use their spray on ceramic coats. Just was wondering if wax leaves a thicker level of chemical protection than a spray. Its gonna be bird sh!t season soon.

With bird crap the car paint damage process is “mechanical”, in that it’s the cycle of heating and cooling of the deposit that cause the surface of the paint to deform from smooth (etching). It will even do this through a proper ceramic coating over time, as it’s not a “chemical” attack.

The only real solution is get it off the paint as quickly as possible, especially in hot climates.

There is/was a product from Autoglym in the UK called Reflow that uses heat to reduce/remove paint surface etching caused by bird crap.

[JerseyM3]

Originally Posted by avi66

With bird crap the car paint damage process is “mechanical”, in that it’s the cycle of heating and cooling of the deposit that cause the surface of the paint to deform from smooth (etching). It will even do this through a proper ceramic coating over time, as it’s not a “chemical” attack.

The only real solution is get it off the paint as quickly as possible, especially in hot climates.

There is/was a product from Autoglym in the UK called Reflow that uses heat to reduce/remove paint surface etching caused by bird crap.

Yeah i saw that. The reflow application scares the crap out of me. It actually heats up the paint to almost a liquid state. Just so many things could go wrong 😆 at least for me!

[chris719]

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

I like chemical guys products and I do use their spray on ceramic coats. Just was wondering if wax leaves a thicker level of chemical protection than a spray. Its gonna be bird sh!t season soon.

It does very slightly, but the problem is that most waxes have strong solvents that could degrade the coating eventually. Some even have abrasives.

People will tell you there is no problem topping a coating with wax but I have tried it on an acrylic test mirror with ADS Quartz and CarPro DLight with a handful of waxes and it's hard to get them back to original performance after a few applications of the wax for whatever reason, even with strong cleaning and water spot remover.

[TboneS54]

Like putting McDonald's bbq sauce packets on your $100 ribeye steak

[Westside Guy]

I would recommend a second coat of ceramic and if you are doing this in a shop that uses one of these, they are top of the line products.

[RussV]

I put Collinite 845 over my ceramic coated Vegas Red. Made the color pop.

[chris719]

You have to be careful, some waxes have mild abrasives and even if not, some have solvents that will eventually degrade the coating's performance.

[rmedina]

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

Does it make sense to add a coat of wax when the paint has a ceramic coating, or another coat of ceramic is the way to go?

You'll lose the hydrophobic properties of the ceramic coating. Top it with a ceramic quick detailer and you'll be good to go.

[Mizuno]

Originally Posted by JerseyM3

Does it make sense to add a coat of wax when the paint has a ceramic coating, or another coat of ceramic is the way to go?

no. wax will build up and clog the ceramic coating, ruining the whole reason for it. use a ceramic detailing spray every now and then to keep the coating fresh. stay away from any traditional waxes

[jmangee]

What interior cleaning products are you guys using? I dont like the shinny look, like more the matte effect but some of the smells are too synthetic.

[fiveightandten]

Originally Posted by jmangee

What interior cleaning products are you guys using? I dont like the shinny look, like more the matte effect but some of the smells are too synthetic.

You can open up a thread to discuss this and get answers relevant to your question.