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10-15-2010, 11:28 PM | #89 |
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Drove a different 528 today
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Today I returned to my dealer and drove a different 2011 528i and it did the same thing as mine does. I am not happy about this, but it does seem to be common with the 5 series. This problem along with the excessive brake dust almost puts this car in the same category as a $12K KIA. Not good in my book.............!!
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10-16-2010, 09:46 PM | #91 |
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That it's normal...............?
That it is normal.....................! To me that is totally unacceptable as an excuse. I then said to them, "You need to drive other brands instead of just BMW's and see that it is not normal" And they said "We can only go by what our Tech's tell us what is normal" To me that is BS...............!!
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11-07-2010, 01:27 PM | #93 |
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Same here... dealer says it's normal. He says "it's the gears shifting, give it time".
Yeah.. Right!! Anyway, now that they're recalling 07-10 (35i) Engines, I'm starting to feel that a 2011 recall for this problem is just a round the corner. got 2500 KM on it so far.... and it's not getting any smoother. |
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11-08-2010, 06:46 AM | #96 |
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Don't know if anyone has mentioned this already, but Mercedes has a very similar problem with its latest E Class. When at idle or low speeds the car sometimes doesn't respond immediately to throttle inputs. I experienced it myself when test driving a E350 CDI. I had stopped at a roundabout and opened the throttle to move forward. Nothing happened for some time before it decided to move - by which time I had to stamp on the brakes because a car was bearing down on me.
The problem was down to the Mercedes "Blue Efficiency" system which cuts down on fuel consumption and emissions. It takes the car out of gear when its at a standstill or travelling at low speeds - so when you open the throttle the gearbox takes some time to engage 1st gear. I wonder if the F10 has the same problem? It doesn't explain why it seemingly doesn't affect the diesel cars though. |
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11-08-2010, 03:33 PM | #97 | |
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German OEM Problem........??
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11-09-2010, 03:34 AM | #98 |
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Dealer couldn't find anything wrong but they want to keep it maybe a day or two in a week or so to see if they can replicate it. It hasn't been doing it quite as much. We shall see...
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11-10-2010, 01:18 AM | #99 | |
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The only jerking I can find is that my passengers often complain of their heads getting jerked out of its socket from 0-10mph launch. Seriously though, I hope you have a good outcome to your situation from the dealer investigations.
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11-10-2010, 07:11 AM | #100 |
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They would not even ask me to pay for one
Car's in for a fault "They supply transport" end of.
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11-10-2010, 10:31 PM | #101 |
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Say TOYOTA
I hear what you are saying, but drive by wire is not fool proof.... Can anyone say TOYOTA.............?
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11-11-2010, 12:35 AM | #102 | |
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Majority of those "incidence" was driver's error. The main problem Toyota faced was that they could not tell the truth, 'cos being perceived as putting all the blames on the drivers would cause an even bigger uproar. |
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11-11-2010, 12:45 AM | #103 |
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I didn't read all 5 pages, but dont you guys think the problem is from the brake hold option? Mybe there is a delay before the brakes are released. I know when the brake is pressed, the ecu will reduce power untill the brakes are fully released. This is to prevent another toyota dizaster. Does the lag happen when brake hold is disabeled? My car is on order so I dont have first hand experience, but did not notice anything in the 4 f10s i test drove.
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12-22-2010, 01:13 PM | #105 |
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Running into the same problem with a week old 535i Xdrive (500km).
I tried using manual shifting to verify that it's not simply a transmission hesitating between gears. In "manual" mode, in first gear, I get the same behavior as automatic. Switching to "Sport" mode does not help either. It does subside a bit when the car is warmer. But otherwise, at around 4-7km/h there's this "Shudder" or "Jerk". Very annoying in an otherwise truly fantastic car. It is possible to smooth it out or (rarely) eliminate it altogether by carefully modulating the throttle (just as others said before - keep pressing the throttle a bit harder without letting off). But this is hardly a solution, just a work around. I'll take it in for inspection, but based on feedback in this thread, I am less than optimistic they'll provide a solution. Anyone else managed to figure it out? Did it disappear completely or partially after a while? |
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12-22-2010, 05:57 PM | #106 |
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I am currently working with my dealer to find a solution. They reset the adaptive features of the transmission about a month ago. It did help for awhile, but I think the problem is returning. I have made them aware this week and asked for our next step. There is mention of this problem on this site, bimmerfest & also Edmunds. It should be getting to the point that BMW cannot deny there is a problem with so many people complaining. On the Edmunds site there is also a phone number to call HQ to complain. I am waiting to hear back from my dealer before calling. This is a real shame since driving the car is great once you get above 10 mph.
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12-22-2010, 06:14 PM | #107 | |
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I test drove a rwd 535i and asked the CA about the delay between throttle and response and he told me it was because the car was starting in second gear. Didn't seem right to me but I've noticed this on a lot car. It concerns me.. but over on Bimmerfest they're insisting it goes away with time.
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12-22-2010, 10:56 PM | #109 |
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I dropped by the dealership today, described the problem and was promptly offered to have a technician join me for a drive. His diagnosis: it's coming from the "Transfer Case" which is part of the car's Xdrive system. According to him, it's coming down to torque transfer from the rear (default state when the car is in full stop) to the front wheels, almost immediately after the car starts driving (at whatever transfer ratio this car does it). He does not know of any solutions and acknowledged the absence of this problem with previous Xdrive models. He claimed that it's no totally impossible that BMW will try and fix the issue via software. But he had no knowledge if it's possible or if they'll ever do it.
He did propose that if I'm not satisfied with his explanation, they'll arrange for back to back test drives, one with another Xdrive, and the other with a standard RWD (it is a bit odd however that some of you do not have and Xdrive). I did notice that the "shudder" is substantially diminished (but does not disappear) once the car is reaching its engine's optimal operating temperature (in Toronto's frigid temperatures it takes at least 15 minutes). I will try and live with this one, while keeping an eye on forums and bulletins. Otherwise, this is a lovely car. |
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12-23-2010, 05:10 PM | #110 |
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I just got my 528 last week and having the same problem toke it back the next day to sales rep who sold it to me and he was surprised to see this problem for the first time, he told me wait until 2500 KM and it may go away.
This is so frustrating |
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