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03-16-2011, 11:15 PM | #1 | |
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Motor Trend: "BMW's Best Six is a Diesel" - 535d
http://blogs.motortrend.com/bmws-bes...esel-7777.html
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03-16-2011, 11:22 PM | #2 |
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If this 535d comes to the states...I'll essentially have my dream car. (okay, not an M3/M5, but this one is actually functional/powerful/sensible (mpgwise/costwise))
p.s. anyone ever notice the European countries always get better looking rims than the states?? this one included |
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03-16-2011, 11:38 PM | #3 | |
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Today I opened up my d. It's been a while. I had punched it and was like damn this thing is fast but I was like eh, it's felt faster. later on i gave it a second go and put it all the way down right before the kick down and it kicked even harder! it has so much damn power! and my mpg's go up when i drive it harder if that makes any sense! lol. It's a very smooth engine with lots of power and efficiency. I love my 335d! |
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03-17-2011, 08:19 AM | #4 |
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I agree, I used to be skeptical about the 8 speed, but I'm becoming more open to the idea, at least in a diesel. I feel like it would match the characteristics of the engine more than if it were mated to a gasser.
Another point to ponder is whether the engine output is accurate. Dynos suggest our 335d's are already producing around 300hp at the crank. So is this new engine really making more power or is it just more accurately rated? |
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03-17-2011, 09:39 AM | #5 | |
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Read somewhere that the new 535d gets 46mpg highway...if accurate...that's pretty f'in insane. I know that conflicts with the quoted article, but just saying. They need to get this to the states ASAP!!! |
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03-17-2011, 11:31 AM | #7 |
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Would love a f10 535d with the same hp/tq as the one t hey tested in England.
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03-17-2011, 04:00 PM | #9 |
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I had a 335d for a loaner yesterday and I could not believe the torque that thing had. Kinda sucks that its an auto because if you got caught it the wrong gear, it was a little sluggish. Once it found the sweet spot though, hold on to your socks! The pull was noticeably stronger than my 335i. I'd say BMW is pretty dumb to not put a 6 speed manual behind the turbo diesel. Plenty of people on this forum have already proved the trans can handle the torque.
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Maybe you should drive in DS though.
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I am a big diesel fan and can't wait for the 335D's to start hitting the auctions as I will pick one up for a daily driver. I just wish they had AWD as an option. I have seen a couple of X5 35D's in the auction but for me, the price is a little steep. I will wait a year and I should start seeing them in the range for the vehicles I buy.
I currently also own a Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD S Limited. It could use the MB 7 Speed but for the most part it is an amazing truck. Lots of torque and decent MPG. It also has the QDII which is a fantastic AWD system. I would not have picked up a Jeep GC as a gas model. Now a 535d Xdrive Wagon and I am good to go! (Dreaming) |
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03-17-2011, 07:40 PM | #13 |
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I also had a 335D loaner this week, and took it out to some twisties during lunch - it has great low end grunt, the same balance as my 335. I was surprised how the diesel noise quieted down as it warmed up, and it has a nice growl under power.
The only thing I didnt like was the low redline, it was shifting a bunch in DS to keep it in the sweet spot. Such is life with a diesel - low redline = lots of shifts. I didnt like how it shifted automagically at redline when I was using the paddles. I did like the paddles are now separate for upshift and downshift - much better setup than the one I had on the 2007 335iA. I'd get one of these in a heartbeat at lease end if they brought the 330D in manual to the states.....likelyhood of it happening: zero
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03-18-2011, 08:00 AM | #14 |
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I noticed the article also misidentifies the 535d's engine: unless I've missed some new development, BMW's N57 is their latest diesel, but it is a single turbo used in the 330d and developing 245hp. The more powerful sequential turbo engines are designated M57 and they're actually not as new as the N57s. Given the 535d uses the sequential turbo setup, I think it's actually running a variant of the M57.
It's interesting how there's the same sort of "N55 vs N54" relationship between the two engines: the N57 is technically newer and more advanced, but the M57 seems to be the choice for BMW's more powerful models. |
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Wait for it....... wait for it......
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03-18-2011, 10:12 AM | #17 | |
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Seems like all BMW motors are underrated these days. The new N57 probably puts out 330hp or so at the crank. The big question is whether the HP ratings will be the same in the US version. Today's US-spec 335d has lower peak power than the Euro version, though the torque is identical. I wonder if that has to do with more restrictive exhaust, or maybe the motor is detuned slightly to work with the lowest common denominator of 40 cetane diesel in the US (whereas Europe is 51 minimum I think). From what I've read, Chevron diesel is consistently 47 or above so it's close to europe's fuel.
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I don't know if there's any measurable performance difference when running 40 cetane vs. 51 cetane. Fun science experiment for somebody. BTW if you bought a BMW diesel last year in the US, don't forget to claim your tax credit when you file!
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I love my X5d, does anyone know if BMW will ever bring the 5 series diesel to the US because I will buy one!
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I also had a 335d loaner. It really has some grunt.
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