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Concur mlai. 17" light performance rims for F10, really need to dig hard to find them. May be custom made?
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Beats the pants off the 356s for sure. You do know that the F14 20" are only 25lbs each, lighter than your 327, right?
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Didn't weight on a scale. But compared to a set of OEM 17" wheels at my tyre shop, F14 definitely tiny bit lighter, nice considering the F14s are 20" wheels. Actual figures are direct from Forgestar.
Yes, I was being anal and checked with all the manufacturers regarding specs before I bought the F14 Last edited by mlai; 06-08-2011 at 09:54 PM.. |
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May i know which rim you are using? I like the outlook of 356 but after seeing this threads I'm afraid i need to reconsider. And I asked BMW service advisor whether chaning the spring will affect the functioning of the sport mode. But he wasn't able to give an answer. Do you have any idea? Thanks! |
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Mlai, dyip and me have Forgestars, flow-formed and bargain for its quality and look. Mlai will swap to something nicer soon, see if you want to buy his. Jxnco has Morr, have to order from US. Nicer and cost a bit more. Jacky has Forged 1 on order from US. Forged and even nicer but $$$. Me, Jxnco and chiver have H&R springs. Dyip has RD springs. If you swap to aftermarket springs of course your warranty will be void for the suspension. We figured the suspension won't have much trouble in 1 or 2 years time so we changed and took the risk. If you don't have adaptive drive ie electronic damper and stabilizer, changing the springs won't affect your Dynamic Driving Control button (normal, sport, sport+). Hope this helps.
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I already joined your party by ordered ACS spring too!
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I just use oe.
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From what the shop told me, the 20" forgestar weight just around 11kg |
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Which is around 24lbs
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No worry, for those who afraid swap with aftermarket spring will damage the shocks in the future, just get a spare set. I'm willing to sell mine OE shocks which used for 2500km only. Give me an offer, if interested? |
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kinda jealous. hehe
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You can see the Formula-1 do not use the big wheel with the thin tyre. Formula-1 is using the small wheel with the thick tyre. Even the 550i, price over one million, the oem wheel is 18"only. It is not because for saving the cost, since that cost is little when compare the whole cost , it is because for the better comfort and performance. If only for the better outlook, it is ok! But you will suffer the bumpy , noisy and more fuel comsumption. |
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About the 18" wheels that come with the 550, if BMW gives you their OE 20" wheels which is cast plus RFT tires, you are right. It will be bumpy, noisy, and extremely uncomfortable. I think that's the reason why the 550 only comes with 18". One more reason is BMW like all other car manufacturers know every one's taste is different. Some prefer performance over comfort. Some prefer comfort over performance. They need to find a middle ground where every one's needs will be satisfied somewhat. It's up to the buyer to modify the stock car to suit their taste. If the buyer wants more comfort, he can change to 16 or 17" tires with non RFT more maximum comfort. You are free to do as you choose as this is your car. The 5 series is an executive sedan. Most of the buyers will be older (ouch I'm part of this group hehehe) than those who prefer compact executive cars like the 3 series. Hence BMW will assume people who buy this car is looking for slightly more comfort over performance so they chose to give the car smaller wheels. The M3, M5, VW Golf GTI and a lot more cars out there that are "fun to drive" are considered performance oriented and all of them have bigger wheels. Of course if you can have both performance and comfort plus looks, why not go for it? That's what most of us did and went for. Mlai has driven an F10 with cast 20" rims and he agrees with you. The car is sluggish. But he also has driven an F10 with lighter wheels and he swears it's completely different. In terms of comfort, everyone's taste is different. What might be comfortable to me might not be comfortable to you. I drove around my stock wheels long enough to say there's very little different between 17" RFTs vs 20" non RFTs. At the end of the day, if you are happy with your set up, good for you. That will save you a lot of cash. If you think stock performs the best, BMW did a fantastic job then. Your profile probably weighted the most in their consumer research that's why stock fits you best. For the rest of us unlucky ones, we need to spend a ton of cash to get maximum satisfaction out of the F10. I think everyone will agree with me, it's money well spent |
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Well said Jxnco. I totally agree with you. I guess this bro was saying don't go for OEM 20" and not aftermarket forged or flow-formed rims. Otherwise I am speechless....
Yap, M3, 1M, M5 all use low larger rims and low profile tires. For M3, profile 40 with option of 35. I wouldn't say these cars have worse performance with the set up. To each his/her own, we are not saying the stock wheels are no good. But our aftermarket set up definitely has equivalent ride comfort and fuel consumption based on our experience and not trash talk. Handling and cornering absolutely have improved tremendously.
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For M5 Oem is 19" not 20" And they are super car, the torque is super. But our normal seden 528i , using the super wheel. What torque will be ? |
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