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2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10 Next Generation Nissan Z |
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Nissan Z | 110 | 57.29% | |
Toyota Supra | 82 | 42.71% | |
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09-16-2020, 10:34 AM | #221 | |
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09-16-2020, 11:00 AM | #222 |
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I appreciate them putting this car out just for enthusiasts with a manual.
Styling wise i love the rear and side design. The front is a bit awkward with the squared grill. Execution is much better than Supra without any fake gills/vents etc. This car is 5 inches longer than 370Z yet is lower and same width. It should have a really nice stance. I do hope they fit it with proper brakes, suspension and normal steering. I do wish it had inline 6 like the original. |
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09-16-2020, 11:07 AM | #223 | |
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From a quick search (article from 2010)- https://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/27/...201%20billion. "The price tag to develop a new vehicle starts around $ 1 billion. According to John Wolkonowicz, Senior Auto Analyst for North America at IHS Global, "It can be as much as $6 billion if it's an all-new car on all-new platform with an all-new engine and an all-new transmission and nothing carrying over from the old model." Considering this was a decade ago price has gone up. You don't spend a billion hoping to just get paid back. They sold about 72k 370z's in the U.S. over the last 11 years, not sure about world wide numbers but each car is helping pay part of the billion (one thousand million).
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Confirming speculation about the 400Z underpinnings, project chief explains what’s underneath.
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By this same accord, that would mean the upcoming 86 (which is another case of a low volume sports car rumored to ride on the same platform as the old model but with a different engine) will cost $10k more than it does now. I am in no way complaining about a price increase since that should have been obvious to everyone, it is the amount with no promise of increased refinement or platform improvements to justify the costs. The Q50 did not increase $10k over the G37 sedan and the Q60 did not increase $10k over the G37 coupe, and that is even with both cars paying for the R&D and retooling for the VR30 which the new Z will not have to account for. |
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09-16-2020, 01:05 PM | #228 | |
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Here is the article.
https://www.400zclub.com/forum/threa...to-europe.109/ Quote:
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09-16-2020, 03:56 PM | #232 |
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You excited it's built on the antique q60 chassis? I like how it looks though and excited to see the new Z as well
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With the 86 I think the worldwide sales numbers between Subaru and Toyota are far greater (part of the reason they did it). I have seen them in Thailand and other SE Asian countries, believe they are sold in Europe. Nissan announced the Z won't be sold in Europe, wouldn't expect SE Asian sales will be high as it is much more expensive and with lower sales numbers it requires the others to cover the costs. How much this car improves on the previous, what the pricing actually turns out to be and if it is worth are impossible to say as we are only looking at a prototype.
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"....This isn't just a regular Z—this is a Turbo Z. Power comes from Infiniti's now familiar 3.0-liter twin-turbo V-6, which makes 300 to 400 horsepower depending on its application. Nissan didn't say how much power the engine will make here, but did note in its press release that each Z was more powerful than the last. So figure more than the the 332 hp the 370Z makes from its naturally aspirated 3.7-liter V-6. More important than any power increase is a standard six-speed manual transmission. An automatic will be available, but a Z car deserves a manual. Praise Mr. K...."
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Yeah. I personally thought the front grille on the 4 Concept looked stunningly good. However, this gigantic rectangular black hole on the 400Z is just completely lazy, WTF were they thinking styling. Who the fuck would just put a big black rectangle in the front to serve as the "face" of your most iconic car? I thought Japanese culture and companies were all about "face". It matches absolutely nothing else on the car.
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Busted! The reality is that this new (old) Z is nothing more than a 370Z with a new sheet metal, interior design, and engine as Motor Trend points out in these photos proving it's a 370Z;
https://www.motortrend.com/features-...arison-visual/ The 370Z was an ancient car already so this one will be quicker but there's only so much you can do with revalved shocks and springs on an ancient chassis as this car should drive basically the same as a tweaked 370Z. I don't know how they could justify charging $40k for a reskinned 370Z even with a new engine. It's the same damn car lol. How embarrassing for Nissan. Last edited by heavyD^2; 09-16-2020 at 10:47 PM.. |
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