[1MOREMOD]

That's a good thing

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

You guys should look into superbio freak. Stack it with a vasodilator, some bcaas intraworkout, an isowhey post work out shake and call it a day.

Warning, you may feel inclined to go to seaworld and punch shamu in the face.

[p-lethal]

i really like Dust by blackstone labs. its got a really good kick too iy

[1MOREMOD]

I want something that's a step away from meth

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

I want something that's a step away from meth

350 mg of caffeine per scoop good enough for you?

[1MOREMOD]

Not sure what else is there besides caffeine? That's easy to come by

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Not sure what else is there besides caffeine? That's easy to come by

Look it up, superbio freak- by global formulas.

[1MOREMOD]

Just got animal rage grapes of wrath flavor. It's okay. I didn't punch anyone in the gym so not impressed yet.

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Just got animal rage grapes of wrath flavor. It's okay. I didn't punch anyone in the gym so not impressed yet.

Yeah I don't usually take big brand.

Global formula still uses DMAA in their preworkouts so I stocked up while I could

[1MOREMOD]

I had old version of jacked up until recently

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

I had old version of jacked up until recently

Did you ever try Craze about 3 years ago ?

I miss it. Also the first formula of oxyelite pro.

[1MOREMOD]

Nope haven't heard of it.

[Yoddha]

If you guys want the highest quality supplements on the market I would highly suggest the JYM product line, by Jim Stoppani. Absolutely no proprietary blends and have the exact amounts of ingredients that are quintessential for growth, repair and sustenance. He has a pre-workout, post workout complex (Matrix and Fast Digesting Carb), Protein (contains egg white protein, whey and casein), multi-vitamin, fat burner, testosterone supporter, ZMAs, and Fish Oil. I can attest to the fact that they are by far the greatest supplements available on the market today.

[EALm4]

what are some pre-workouts that do not have an caffeine in them?

[e92days]

My preworkout is pure or "L" (natural/bioavailable) form amino acids; taurine, beta alanine, glycine, glutamine, and the rest of the essential amino acids. I also make sure I've eaten a small amount of food about an hour before, leaving it time to digest some .

If you like creatine consider going the kre-alkalyn route, I've never used it but I heard it's better than others. Do your research though, with creatine you need tons of water otherwise it's proven to be bad for your liver. Happy exercising!

[koreez88]

Originally Posted by EALm4

what are some pre-workouts that do not have an caffeine in them?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/if...ol-powder.html

Best flavor is lemon drop, worst by far is blueberry pomegranate, I actually threw most of it away because it was so disgusting.

Don't expect stim-like energy levels from those, but they do help with focus.
I work out after work and can't sleep if I take caffeine after 3pm.

[EALm4]

Originally Posted by koreez88

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/if...ol-powder.html

Best flavor is lemon drop, worst by far is blueberry pomegranate, I actually threw most of it away because it was so disgusting.

Don't expect stim-like energy levels from those, but they do help with focus.
I work out after work and can't sleep if I take caffeine after 3pm.

Thanks bud. Looks good and respectable price.

[alBeeMW]

Originally Posted by EALm4

Thanks bud. Looks good and respectable price.

I've tried it before. Good stuff!!

[JunkyardDogg]

bcaa/creatine/beta alanine.

I don't trust all that extra shit.

[Tsujen]

Using the c4 double pack from costco and than JYM protein post workouts

[CantCatchMe]

Vienz is my favorite. I've been using it when I lift in the evenings, and I don't feel jittery when using it.

[1MOREMOD]

Have superpump now haven't formed opinion