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Douglas H. Everett Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I try not to be afraid of failure. Failure is simply a stepping stone to success. "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." A.E.
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C4 because they go boom, Jack because you need some heat, and eagles blood for super-strength!
Seriously, because people are dumb enough to actually do something like this.
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Vasco Da Gama didn't live in a time when there was so much governmental overreach. If you were a property owner and a utility wanted to shit up your nice view with some triple conductor 500kv strung on some huge lattice towers, why you might not want to grant that easement. I'm actually dealing with that right now at a site that I'm trying to do a smaller 15MW mine at. Getting permitting and easements from railroads is IMPOSSIBLE.
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The incremental change that has happened since then has to become exponential, AND the grid / infrastructure have to support that revolution (not evolution) . The quotes are inspiring.. but what is the plan for 300M people to have the resources, technology and infrastructure for conversion to EVs in 13 years, "we'll figure it out?"
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I simply don't see how trying makes any difference to anyone.
There is simply no effect on your life as Cali tries to push forward. You're not forced to sell your car; your tax hike will probably be negligible. At worst, you'll have to see more photovoltaic solar farms and wind turbines in distant areas, and your property values will go up because your neighbors will get EV chargers in their garages. Just today, Namibia in Africa of all places announced it'll have a Hydrogen plant online in 2024. Quote:
Why do y'all repeatedly put the onus of solving world peace on this guy? 13 years is a long time for the dudes who make $500k a year to solve these exact problems, not the guys on the forums.
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Charitable giving is a goal that reduces taxable income, which helps in achieving the tax mandate.
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Wholeheartedly disagree. That stifles innovation.
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That's a slippery slope. Come on, man.
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I see no problem in working towards these goals, but we can't just drop everything and about-face and expect no repercussions should we not succeed. We could gradually make the transition, but it would be a 25+ year process. Many people say we will be in a climate hellscape by then, but what do you think will happen if this great transition doesn't pan out? Do you think that even one of the major OEMs (not just the US-based ones) going under won't have a massive effect on the economy? What about multiple? And don't even get me started on the US and (part of) Europe being the only ones that are actually trying to put our money and tech where our mouth is. China, India, Mexico and Eastern Europe have no plans of reducing their emissions in any meaningful way. Like most things these days, there are three groups (2 extremes and a moderate): 1. It has to happen NOW or it will never happen and the world will end if we don't TRY. 2. It should happen, but at a reasonable rate and with careful planning and execution so that we don't make ourselves vulnerable or end up without a back up plan. 3. It should never happen and there's no point in trying. And like everything else, people in the group 2 are lumped in with group 3. Last edited by Cos270; 09-12-2022 at 03:34 PM.. Reason: typo |
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Hi all,
I can see that the conversation is getting a little heated so lets please cool it a little and may I please take the opportunity to remind you all of one section of the forum rules, specifically to be respectful to each other and not attack. https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1952844 Thanks, Mani
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I'm not anti-EV, I'm anti-unfunded-mandates that I believe are unsupportable and potentially catastrophic to everyone's wellbeing. I'm an engineer, not a dreamer. I like to make plans that I know will work, and then execute them for maximum benefit. That is my underlying mindset, and a description of my thinking/motives. Dreamers can dream, but engineers have to get the work done. Sooner or later, someone will have to listen to the guys that will get it done, the sooner the better. Dreams never built anything. |
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Amen. I am excited for the 20xx iX5M with 4 wheel electric motors and 1400awhp whenever that happens. If they can make it handle and drive like a M car, I think it'll be fast and fun as hell.
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I mean that if left as a statement that this is your opinion, then at face value I can't really argue that. However, when we try to qualify an opinion based on something that can be debated, then we get trapped into discussing specifics that, themselves, are up for interpretation.
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This is not how electrical infrastructure works sir. This is not a car. Everything that it takes to upgrade the grid - such as stringing additional conductors, deploying additional transformers, expanding breakers bays, and doing new sub buildouts is a known quantity with a known lead time and process. I am familiar with this process and I am trying to tell you that it is not a short lead time. Deploying additional generation capacity is a completely different animal with even more regulation, as it also involves the feds and numerous regulatory bodies. You and many others just aren't factoring this lead time into building this out, and there is no handwaving, diversion, or text that you will be able to furnish to change these facts. Nothing short of an act of congress to force the rapid expansion of the grid is what is going to be necessary to cut out the red tape that makes it so hard and time consuming to deploy. Please do not twist my arguments or points in any way shape or form and understand this is what I and others are up in arms about. All this discussion about grid mix is an obfuscation and a secondary consideration, renewables or not, it has to be built out and it has to be started right now.
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I stated the opposite actually-It's going to be hard. That's no reason to say we shouldn't do it. Returning to my earlier point. Solar panels in conjunction with household batter cells will help with reducing the load on the grid at night won't it?
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That 6-7$/gallon people saw would be your new normal. I feel the best thing is hybrids, until you have to pay for a new battery.
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