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09-23-2011, 10:40 PM | #23 |
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This is the real proper situation to make good use of that fancy Active Sound Design from the M5
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09-23-2011, 10:57 PM | #24 | |
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LOL yeah then and you can make it sound like a V8...
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09-23-2011, 11:06 PM | #26 |
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Yeah the N20 w/the M///Sport V8 Sound package...
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09-24-2011, 04:24 AM | #28 | |
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The Germans have a word for it that sums it all up nicely: Laufkultur. I'm not saying the 4 cylinder is a bad engine. And to buy that car is probably a very rational decision. But there is no substitute for the refinement of the classic BMW R6.
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09-24-2011, 04:25 AM | #29 |
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Completely different markets.... relatively inexpensive fuel and no tax punishment for car with large displacement engine in NA make the small engine pretty much irrelevant over there( at least for the premium sedan)
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09-24-2011, 08:06 AM | #30 |
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I can understand if BMW would make this an optional engine for those who special order. But keep the 6 standard on the 528i.
In this economy and gas prices rising they have to find a way to lead in the high end car market. I personally would keep the 6 for me. |
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09-24-2011, 08:33 AM | #31 |
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For me the straight six is iconic for being BMW. Just as the rear engine flat six is for Porsche. Frankly, it is a dumb idea for BMW to break from tradition. They should "offer" the N20 as an option... but for the US market... this is one dumb bone head move for BMW. What is next no more kidney grills or rwd? Ohh wait... yea... they are making a FWD car soon!
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09-24-2011, 08:56 AM | #32 | |
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That won't be true when the new regulations kick in. And frankly, some people that do not care about performance as much (face it, they are out there) might pick the new N20. Let's face it, no offense to anyone, but the F10 with the N53 wasn't exactly going to set Nurburgring lap records. I think they are both great choices to have on top of the 535i and 550i.
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09-24-2011, 09:29 AM | #33 |
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I would agree that 4-banger doesn't sound right in 5 series here in US, but as people said europe has plenty of examples from the same segment. I remember I saw Audi A8 2.5TDI which I thought was a pretty bad combination for such a luxury car, but people still buy those. I definitely would try to drive this N20 if I need a daily driver and stay with BMW. Choice is a good thing.
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09-24-2011, 11:35 AM | #34 | |
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I agree, and I'm just glad I have one of these last I6 wonders. I do think this new motor has it's place as a new option, just not a straight-up replacement.
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09-24-2011, 12:33 PM | #35 |
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Here in Europe we will have both the new 528i that will accelerate faster than the "new" 530i with the straight 6 pumped up to 272HP.
Are you saying they are going inly 4 cyl in USA? Sounds like a very strange market decision. |
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09-24-2011, 03:43 PM | #38 |
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Bad marketing choice for the US. BMW at least was not dumb enough to kill the NA I-6 elsewhere. Engine choices in the US, now all turbo, suck. And blow.
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09-24-2011, 04:10 PM | #39 |
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There are lots of people that look at the economy and the comfort features of a car that never need or can easily discount larger engines. Too many of the manufacturers try to make the 'family' of vehicles look the same, which means that a smaller car gets correspondingly smaller passenger compartment rather than limiting the number of passengers. Over half of the cars I've owned were 4-cylinder powered. And, if they were in a larger vehicle with good NVH characteristics, especially with the torque rich engines available today, I'd certainly consider one.
If most of your driving is in a congested area, comfort and economy of operation for the time spent just idling is a big deal - a smaller engine is ideal, and if sized properly, would comfortably take you on the occasional long-distance jaunt. While in the US, maintenance cost differences may not be an issue, at least for the majority who don't keep their cars longer than the warranty, fewer cylinders are cheaper to maintain as well. In most of the world, that 'free' maintenance is a pretty substantial option. |
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09-25-2011, 01:26 PM | #43 |
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I don't agree. Turbo-charged cars necessarily are affected by lag and non-linear power development. Especially with a manual transmission, those "features" of a turbo-charged engine are annoying and, at times, dangerous. The reviews invariably tell us that turbo lag is almost gone. The key word in that is "almost".
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09-25-2011, 01:36 PM | #44 |
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I'm not in the market for a 5 series, nor will I be ever, or at least not for a while, but I agree with everyone who said it just doesn't seem right to have a luxury car with a 4 cylinder engine. Most of the reason I made the move to buy a 128i convertible this year instead of waiting for the new 1 series is because I wanted a 6 cylinder. I saw BMW was making the move to 4 cylinder cars, and this isn't what I wanted. I have nothing against 4 cylinder cars, my daily driver is one. But for my weekend fun car, I want a bigger engine.
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