[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by SpaceSilver.X1

I'm a little confused now.

if the car with M Sport package comes with "M" fender badge in every country on the planet except the US, does putting on the identical "M" fender badge on the same US BMW with M Sport package count as fake?

are are all M badges considered "fake" when they are not on true M cars like M3 and M5?

It wouldn’t offend me if someone retro fitted m fender badges to their US spec m sport Gx, technically I suppose they may be considered ‘fake’ though.

BMW m sport or m tech in old money come/came with m steering wheel, m gear knob, m door cills, m sport/tech body kit, front door trim or wing m badging, sports seats & sports suspension, they didn’t come factory fitted with M boot or M front grill badging…so I wouldn’t consider any m sport or m tech bmw to be ‘fake’

As for those that slap M3/4/5 badging on their 3/4/5 20d’s or 3/4/5 40is that’s fake M badging…and don’t even get me started on those ‘M’ tricolour grill stripes

[SpaceSilver.X1]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

It wouldn’t offend me if someone retro fitted m fender badges to their US spec m sport Gx, technically I suppose they may be considered ‘fake’ though.

BMW m sport or m tech in old money come/came with m steering wheel, m gear knob, m door cills, m sport/tech body kit, front door trim or wing m badging, sports seats & sports suspension, they didn’t come factory fitted with M boot or M front grill badging…so I wouldn’t consider any m sport or m tech bmw to be ‘fake’

As for those that slap M3/4/5 badging on their 3/4/5 20d’s or 3/4/5 40is that’s fake M badging…and don’t even get me started on those ‘M’ tricolour grill stripes

Thanks!

I think U.S. BMW buyers really get screwed over a lot... in most parts of the world, BMW gives the buyer the free option to delete badges during production.

[Brandoch]

Debadging is the same thing as fake badges. One is adding to appear better and one is removing to appear worse.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Brandoch

Debadging is the same thing a fake badges. One is adding to appear better and one is removing to appear worse.

Maybe some of us just prefer the uncluttered look of a debadged boot lid/tailgate

[Brandoch]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

Maybe some of us just prefer the uncluttered look of a debadged boot lid/tailgate

Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-

[SpaceSilver.X1]

Originally Posted by Brandoch

Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-

then there's this... it was re-badged, de-badged and then finally re-badged back to a BMW... or something like that...

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Brandoch

Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-

Doesn’t your e93 M3 have an M boot badge

[Brandoch]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

Doesn’t your e93 M3 have an M boot badge

Yep, I ment to say adding a M badge to the boot.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Brandoch

Yep, I ment to say adding a M badge to the boot.

Thanks for the clarity

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by SpaceSilver.X1

then there's this... it was re-badged, de-badged and then finally re-badged back to a BMW... or something like that...

I can’t believe someone put a BMW logo on their Supra. Amazing. So the Supra is based on a Z4 but the development and fine tuning were done by Toyota. They should’ve used the BMW 50th Anniversary logo to make it an even more special anniversary edition.

[SpaceSilver.X1]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

I can’t believe someone put a BMW logo on their Supra. Amazing. So the Supra is based on a Z4 but the development and fine tuning were done by Toyota. They should’ve used the BMW 50th Anniversary logo to make it an even more special anniversary edition.

I sat in one at a Toyota dealer while waiting for them to do an oil change on my Lexus. The Supra's interior felt like 95% BMW to me.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by SpaceSilver.X1

I sat in one at a Toyota dealer while waiting for them to do an oil change on my Lexus. The Supra's interior felt like 95% BMW to me.

It does look and feel like a BMW. Idrive was probably a shock to new non-BMW owners whereas we’ve been playing around with Idrive for at least 15 years now.

['Cane]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

It does look and feel like a BMW. Idrive was probably a shock to new non-BMW owners whereas we’ve been playing around with Idrive for at least 15 years now.

iDrive was introduced with the E65 7 Series in 2001 (followed by the E60 5 Series in 2004), so 22 years.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

iDrive was introduced with the E65 7 Series in 2001 (followed by the E60 5 Series in 2004), so 22 years.

My first time using Idrive was when I got an e60 5 series loaner when my ‘09 M3 was in for service. I should have qualified my statement by saying my first experience with Idrive was ~15 years ago

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by M2siast

It’s because it’s a BMW.
Project J29, shared with project G29 (Z4).

Saying it’s a Toyota is the same as saying the Yaris is a Toyota.

I know. I stated above the Supra was based on the z4. However, it should not have bmw hood and trunk logos

[King_Leonard]

Originally Posted by M2siast

No it shouldn’t, that’s right! LOL

That’s like those VW with Audi emblems.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen an Audi with fake Sline badges.

[SpaceSilver.X1]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Audi makes it easier. It’s used S and S-line in virtually every car and SUV, so all of them are some form of it.

Then AMG caught on, and then M did the same.

at least they don't do that with the Alpina name yet.

[Ric in RVA]

Originally Posted by Suave

Same reason as this!! I have called out a couple folks in the past about this nonsense.

And the loudest ones are always on the automatics.....

Nothing worse than a fart can slurring through an up shift!

ugh.

[BMthusiast]

Appropriately posting this on page 228. Or should I say "///M228".

[BMthusiast]

And another one!

[BMthusiast]

Yet another.

[Prince Thundernight.]

It isn't, but this M badging actually looks fake. Hate the size difference.