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06-23-2011, 06:30 PM | #45 |
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I don't fit comfortably in the sedan (and the touring is essentially the same) so yes, for me the GT DOES replace the touring. Personally, I don't really care what it looks like as long as I fit and it drives decent. The X-series doesn't really have more headroom, and, personally, I don't like the entry/egress.
I know a lot of people are hung up on the looks, but the GT isn't bad in person, and is quite comfortable inside. Also, from a security viewpoint, the GT wins, as under normal configuration, the stuff in the boot is concealed. The cover for the touring is one of those things you don't always put up, and while not significantly noisier, being able to close off the rear suspension from the main cabin does make the whole thing quieter. The touring does not have as much passenger space, and if that's a consideration, again, the GT wins. It costs to certify any vehicle here for sale...that cost needs to be spread out over the cars sold. No for-profit company can afford to cater to support a product that does not sell enough to justify bringing it in to the USA. So, complain all you want, not enough people voted with their dollars in the past, and it's not likely to change the future. Want to change their mind? Drop a deposit off at the dealership to hold a touring for you. If enough people did this, they may reconsider...otherwise, not likely to happen. USA pretty much dropped touring (station wagons), when SUV's and cross-overs took over the landscape. There's a reason there's very few sold here, very few people bought them, and they withered in the showrooms. You can get one, but it would be grey market, cost you a fortune to get certified, and not have a US warranty. Got enough to buy at least two, so one can be crash tested? Getting the emissions to meet the US specs with our fuel with no factory support for programming and parts? Go ahead, you can probably reverse engineer it (or pay someone to do it, which is more likely). Course, after certifying one, you could then sell more of the same model easier, if you then wanted to be an importer (if BMWUSA didn't give you big grief). Your grey market's phone wouldn't work, because it would come from (probably Europe) with an incompatible system. But, you could buy a new one, but then have to pay the annual service fee. Not sure if the European versions can be reprogrammed so your FM radio station spacing can be made compatible with the US version. Your reception would be hit or miss. Lots of other little gotchas, some of which are the lights. You should realize, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...there are lots of dogs out there married to their partner that think they are the most beautiful person in the world. Beauty is more than skin deep...the GT has the bones of a decent vehicle, and some think it is just fine the way it is. |
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06-23-2011, 06:53 PM | #46 |
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Totally agree with avus: “these rantings are becoming repetitive, and boring...”
And fully agree with jadnashuanh: “You should realize, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...there are lots of dogs out there married to their partner that think they are the most beautiful person in the world. Beauty is more than skin deep...the GT has the bones of a decent vehicle, and some think it is just fine the way it is.” These boring whiners should go back to playing with their little toys and stop pretending they are styling experts or marketing gurus. ENUFF!
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06-24-2011, 10:51 AM | #48 |
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Better, but still unattractive
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06-24-2011, 03:21 PM | #50 |
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The average American car buyer has different priorities and perspectives than those in most other parts of the world. Look at some of the (to us) off the wall designs sold in Japan and elsewhere...people must like them, since they sell. We get very few diesel engines here because, first, our fuel doesn't match up with Europe's (it's gotten a lot better, but is still lacking), and when the big 3 (mainly GM) tried to do a diesel car here, they really blew it. Then, people still think of diesels as soot belching, slow, hard to start, unattractive devices. Few have driven a decent modern one, and if they did, would likely change their mind. It doesn't help that on the BMW models that have diesel available, they charge a premium for it whereas they prices are on par with the gasoline versions (or cheaper) in Europe. Yes, they have to make a special version for the US (our fuel has more sulfur and the requirments are different), and that costs, but it would be really nice to have a nice one available as an option in more vehicles. The 530d GT is rated at 42mpg extraurban cycle on the European test. Try that in your gasoline engine.
There really isn't a comparable vehicle to the GT. Plus, I don't think the dealers push them. I'll be picking mine up (again) at the Performance Center in SC on Monday, then driving about 1K miles home (after the 720 miles I put on it in Germany earlier). So far, I'm glad I bought it. |
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06-24-2011, 07:12 PM | #51 |
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are we STILL talking about this...
Whiners, the 5GT was not developed/designed for you. you are not the targeted buyer. there is a market for the 5GT, you're just not part of that market. your opinion on it, while yours, doesn't really matter. go ahead and stick with your accusations, and foregone conclusions of the car and the BMW brand... but rest assured, we'll still be here with our 5GTs and BMW will continue to develop the vehicle. |
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So what's wrong again? what's the exact connection between the sales of 5GT and its looks? Any prospective randomzied controlled trial? Or it's just your opinion? That really does not matter at all.
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With regards to the M Sport kit, I would like to see it person.
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And for you Audi Fanbois the only car within Audi's stable to compare space/luxury wise with the GT is the A8. IMHO a 550 GT will embarrass an A8, much like how I pulled a B8 S4 with exhaust from a roll. Left him like he was standing still He gave an eager after taking his licking. Don't get it twisted, the GT drives/handles well too Flame suit on
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no a fan whatsoever.
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Just traded my 2008 x6 for a 335GT. X6 was a great looking truck, GT is a so-so looking car. I miss my x6, but am slowly warming to the GT. In Black, the lines are not so visible and it shrinks the whole thing as this is a large car. Longer than my x6 by 4 inches. Longer wheelbase too. Fantastic interior, way more upscale than the x6 and more comfortable seats, and I had comfort seats in the x6. I prefer the 335GT to the x6 on any highway trip. I test drove the A7 and really liked it, but the difference in price from a slightly used 335GT was 16k. I'll keep my money and enjoy my 335GT for a good long while. I have a unique ride once more, and people "out there" don't seem to see it as ugly as we experts in here. I have even had people tell me it's beautiful! Cheap
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Thank you AVUS. It just tickles me silly, to see how other apparently passionate Ultimate Driving Machine owners go out of their way to type junk about an automobile they either can't understand, refuse to understand, or both. That's like me following a Rolls Royce post to talk about how boxy or stodgy the Phantom looks...all while hiding the 'green envy' look on my face that I can't even afford the insurance payments on the car, but feel somehow compelled to trash the design for those that can.
I love my car, my second BMW acquisition. No bull, this Dinan GT might be an acquired taste, but one that can kick the butt of pretty much anything that dares challenge me...while lulling my kids to sleep in the back seat from all the space and comfort of a....well, a Rolls Royce! LOL!!! And since I've now figured out how to launch the car (brake pedal/gas) with the Sport II engaged...it's just darn ridiculous...yet grown up and refined!
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I've read the posts on the GT and I find them comical. I just purchases a black GT, and I absolutely love it. I love the looks also! The rear end is probably the least attractive area on the vehicle, but I love the overall look! Previous to this I had an 07' 550i white with the M kit 20" wheels, the works. I like the GT hands down more that I did the 550i. The GT has more room, is more comfortable...I tinted the windows and it looks really nice on the black. LOVE this car! Those speaking on it who have not driven one...just stay in your little worlds with your little A7. No one with common sense would pick that over a GT!
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