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07-19-2010, 12:52 AM | #45 | |
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My first BMW lease in 2001 with a major Chicago area BMW dealer and current board sponsor resulted in me paying $2,500 additional profit to the dealership over the 3 year life of the lease. All because I trusted my friendly CA. Having access to Wholesale Pricing helps to level the playing field although things are still stacked in the dealer's favor.
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07-20-2010, 11:31 AM | #46 | |
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This is probally what I take most offense to, you talk about how much the dealership rips you off but in reality you are trying to rip off the dealership half the time. I have plenty of customers who are fine with nominal discounts and yes some that are fine with MSRP, they can afford it and to them the small amount of hassle and service I provide are worth whatever profit myself or the dealership makes. pharding wrote that the dealership made an additional $2500 in profit from his lease, I don't know if it's markup in the aquisition fee or the MF itself but it's a business, profit is what they do, banks and credit unions make money off your loan. I have no idea the cost of my air conditioning unit is to the supplier but I know it's cost to me and it's benefit and I pay for it gladly here in the south. The point is this if invoice on car x is 50k and msrp is 53.5k you can afford either so your attempt at trying to find the closest to cost is just being cheap. Ill reiterate what I've said time and time again some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. There are "bad" car salesman, although fewer then consumerist believe. You bastardize the industry hoping to justify the dirty tactics consumers use, oh "dealership y gave me this price" and then I call them on it and it's a lie. A consumer wants to best price or best deal, well what if it was reversed, what if the leading question was "what's the most amount of profit you're willing to pay" you'd be pissed at the audacity of the question. The world isn't out to get you, yes everyone is here to make a profit. pharding and bpwr, would you be willing to work year over year only make enough to cover expenses? Would you be ok with getting to retirement and having no savings for the rest of life? Would you be ok if you're bosses came to you one day and asked "what's the least amount of pay you're willing to accept, we just want to best deal and were shopping with India for more competitive prices" You'd feel undervalued and pissed, oh wait America is outsourcing more now-a-days because Americans want steeper discounts and companies have to cut more and more from the cost of goods/services. Were screwing ourselves people. |
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07-20-2010, 02:43 PM | #47 | |
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I have nothing against honest sales people, if they're straight upfront with everything i'm fine with that... so far, I've dealt with around 4 of them, and 4 out 4 are straight up lyres... let me give you an example of my last deal, I come to the dealership with all the amounts I'm willing to pay, and i tell the guy "Here's my numbers, I don't want to waste anybody's time if you can do it great, if you can't then you can't", the guy tried to manipulate every number possible for 3 HOURS knowing that I know everything but STILL tried it... then he prints a contract with the numbers I wanted to sign, I look over and at the bottom it says $5000 down payment, I told him 10 times i'm doing 0 down yet he prints it with a down payment... I also had 1000$ loyalty credit from bmw, so I wanted to use it too, then he starts saying how for this $1000 credit dealership needs to pay $500 to the bmw so in reality it's not 1000 credit it's 500 credit, what a bunch of bs.... then he has a nerve at the end to tell me how i'm such a difficult costumer and like he's doing me a favore, I was pretty close just walking out, but he did give me what I wanted after 4 hours
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07-20-2010, 04:23 PM | #48 | |
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Sounds like a jackass, at my dealership everything is on the screen and if you have a budget I'll tell you quick either a straight "yes" we can do it or "no" it's not possible. I just overheard a guy behind me asking for 7000 dollars off a CPO 3 series we had marked down 2000 dollars. The client advisor told him unfortunately it wasn't possible. He said "You don't want to go ask your manager?" and the client advisor again said "I don't mind asking for you but unfortunately it doesn't change the answer". They left after telling the CA he wasn't flexible. $7000 off? I can't buy your wife for $50 but I don't expect you to ask her first to get the answer. I do ask if your budget is monthly payment related if financing or total price if a cash purchase because sometimes people are basing it off a rate higher then we offer. I will tell someone it would take X amount down or discount to reach your budget. I have worked with really bad guys that I would never buy a car from them but in general they work at Ford dealerships or Hyundai not BMW. Most of the staff here has been here 5 to 12 years and a dealership typically can't last that long with such a bad sales staff. If you like the CA pay more for the car or tip him that's all I know, if you don't like the CA don't buy there regardless of price. All this being said I get really pissed when I hear about horrible CA's especially that work for BMW but I have yet to find that even 10% of the sales people I meet are anything like the reputation they have. Here's another pet peeve when people guess what they can negotiate to, like well X dealership has one the same price but I can probally get them to come off like 4 grand. Why would you say that when negotiating with me? It's like you're trying to hope the price down, do this next time you buy a car if youre budget is 50k buy a 50k car. Simple. Dead horse consider yourself beat. |
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09-23-2010, 02:29 AM | #49 | |
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this has to be one of the most outlandish posts i've ever seen on this forum. so essentially you think that a customer shouldn't come armed to the teeth with all the information at their disposal? they should ignore it? if the car business wasn't profitable, then neither you nor your dealership should be in it. you don't see people like david avilles, who charges less than 500 over invoice per car on an ED (with a lot more paperwork and hassle than a normal deal) complaining at all do you? In fact, because of his no haggle system, he probably puts in 30 deals a month.
A consumer's job is to get the lowest price possible, everything else being equal. That simple. - esquire Quote:
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09-23-2010, 10:32 PM | #51 |
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10-08-2010, 09:48 PM | #53 |
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ED invoice?
I would very much appreciate a n ED invoice sheet for a 550ix if anyone has it. Thank you very much! Email is: wade@pc-oms.com
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10-10-2010, 09:20 AM | #54 |
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Stick with this simple formula to give you a ballpark ED Wholesale Price.
ED Wholesale = 14% off BASE PRICE, plus 9% off options.
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11-03-2010, 03:29 PM | #56 |
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Hi there...I am looking to buy 528i Euro Delivery and would appreciate someone e-mails me the confidential wholesale pricing with invoice and MSRP. Thanks
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11-09-2010, 01:16 AM | #57 |
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11-09-2010, 02:38 AM | #58 | |
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11-13-2010, 03:09 PM | #59 |
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Hi, could someone tell me the ED invoice price for base 535xi? I know it is 42,440 for 535i but need the exact number for 535xi.
Edit: Can someone please email me the sheet that has 535xi numbers. Or even PM will do. Many Thanks. Last edited by blackberrycubed; 04-24-2012 at 05:42 PM.. |
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Guys.. can anyone send me the invoice/ED pricing sheet please?
synthetikz@gmail.com Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can help =)
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11-27-2010, 09:45 PM | #62 |
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can someone send me the invoice pricing sheet for the 2011 550i w/ the M Sports Package - alex@thetse.com - thank you! I have one on order & should be here in a couple weeks - I can't wait any longer!!
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11-29-2010, 02:49 PM | #63 |
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12-05-2010, 10:36 AM | #64 |
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If anyone has the info, I'd appreciate a PM for the pricing as well. Looking to maybe do a ED. Thx
Call me what you want, but a savings is a savings. I'll spend the extra few grand I save on something else I really want |
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12-09-2010, 01:14 PM | #65 | |
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EU price list request
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pls do me a favor and send to me eu price list to babakjahrom@gmail.com Tks. Quote:
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12-17-2010, 12:38 PM | #66 |
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Can someone please forward me the ED wholesale pricing for the F10? ttgary228@aol.com
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