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2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10 New Car Order - Adaptive Drive (Option 2VA) - worth the £2770 |
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11-06-2014, 07:57 AM | #45 | |
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I have 19" wheels now but I had 17" wheels without VDC/AD on a previous F10; and I can say that even with 19", the smoothness is near equivalent to 17". Our roads are not too bad though. The ride with AD seems to be controlled (soft, cushioned and yet stable). As Highland Pete had pointed in a post before (either this forum or another) that a lot of people believe a sport setting has to be harsh and feel everything on the road. The AD gives you a sure footed feeling without losing the comfort; AD provides ride comfort (imperfections in the road) without compromising stability/ control.
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11-06-2014, 07:59 AM | #46 |
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I ordered a 535d with AD after driving a 530d with regular M Sport suspension and a 535d M Sport with AD back-to-back. Both had 19" wheels, but I ordered 18". The differences I noted were: 530d was your regular firm/conventional setup with hard low profile tyres. So pretty jiggly on normal straight roads, but quite nice when cornering. 535d could dial out the jiggle out a bit with the VDC in Comfort. But the ride was better than that - on a normal straight road it did none of that "bouncing your head left and right" caused by the stiff ARBs. The ride was really rather nice. You then get carried away and go for Comfort+, which is a little too wallowy for me. But hoof it into a roundabout and it's back on rails again - cornering as flat as a pancake, and a lot better than the regular M Sport 530d. For me, the big win was the secondary ride quality when driving straight at a constant speed. The cornering amusement is a secondary bonus. Looking forward to my car, which should be better again, with 18"s and (asap) non-RFT tyres. |
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11-06-2014, 09:06 AM | #47 | |
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I've mentioned before that AD proves its worth, particularly on poor road surfaces, even in Sport mode, where the working envelope is much wider than a passive sport system. Single wheel bumps are much reduced, without copy across the car. Plus we have the options of best base setting for our conditions. An observation on the Comfort mode (Comfort+ on later models) when loaded you'd expect it to float about a bit more, but I've found the opposite, it is better planted than when it is just me in the car. A loaded car on the motorway in Comfort mode is a very smooth and controlled ride. The other clear benefit of AD is front to rear balance through the twisty stuff. Moderate driving gives a neutral handling balance, edges towards understeer as you press on harder. Plus due to the ARS function, helps steering precision and agility. I'd have liked to have tried IAS (the rear steering) that is supposed to 'shrink' the car even more, enhancing the driving dynamics. HighlandPete |
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11-06-2014, 11:51 AM | #48 |
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thanks guys for those answers.
As I say, for next car, whenever that is, it's a must to try out. (I do still wish I had my E39 msport at times! - but that's another thread!) |
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11-08-2014, 04:17 AM | #49 | |
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My complaint with the E39 was at lower speeds on poor roads I'd often tell passengers "the ride is better at speed", "smooths out" which of course it did. Don't have that issue in the F11. HighlandPete |
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09-29-2016, 10:29 AM | #50 |
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Dynamic Dumper Control and modes
I wonder if anyone who has AD can shed a bit more experience. I DON'T have it in my configuration (530d xdrive), as I only ordered option 223 DYNAMIC DAMPER CONTROL.
However, I do have all of the following modes: - ECOPRO - COMFORT - COMFORT + - SPORT - SPORT + Is this normal if I don't have 2VA option (Adaptive Drive). The catalogue explains that 2VA contains COMFORT + mode; while there is no detailed explanation of 223. Do I have by any chance the Adaptive Drive??? 2VA Adaptive Drive. includes option code 223 'Dynamic Damper Control'. Individually selectable suspension setup (including 'Comfort+'). Reduces the tendency of the vehicle's superstructure to roll when cornering to a minimum. Also includes the Dynamic Drive function and so reduces the roll of the vehicle body that occurs when cornering at high speed or taking sudden evasive action. The system is based on active anti-roll bars at the front and rear axles and it is in constant operation when the car is on the move. The Driving Experience Control includes 'Comfort +' as an additional function M550d xDrive: Comfort + mode not available 223 Dynamic Dumper Control reduces disturbing vehicle movements to a minimum, as the shock absorbers automatically adapt to all road conditions. For M5: "Comfort", "Sport" and "Sport Plus" selectable by means of the Driving Dynamic Control switch Last edited by mikimedic; 09-29-2016 at 10:41 AM.. |
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09-29-2016, 01:14 PM | #51 | |
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I wouldn't get your hopes up, but if you want to physically check for 2VA, take a look under the rear of the car and see if the roll bar has the hydraulic unit mid position. Look under from the rear nearside corner, to the subframe. You'll see the unit on the roll bar, (a bit bigger than a baked bean tin) with the pipes and hoses coming out from it. |
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09-29-2016, 02:46 PM | #52 | |
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You will have the same suspension as DDC (also called VDC), but not the additional stability setup because of the roll bars. |
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09-30-2016, 12:34 PM | #55 | |
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09-30-2016, 12:55 PM | #56 | |
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I have probably said this before (as has Highland Pete); the AD is expensive for a reason. It's that good and worth every penny. It just changes the car. VDC gives great comfort, but AD gives immense stability and agility that is unbelievable for a large car like a F10. Would I order it again - every time, without question?
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09-30-2016, 01:51 PM | #57 | |
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For me Dynamic Drive, the active roll control part (ARS) of AD, is the part we benefit from most in the 5-series. I know many don't really get what it is doing, but for me it is technical brilliance, solves a lot of the negatives we have with passive suspensions, particularly the compromises we have with fixed rate roll bars. Besides controlling roll in the bends, shrinking the car and making it more agile, it tunes understeer and oversteer according to speed and load transfer. Allows a more neutral handling chassis, across a wider working envelope. In the touring with rear self levelling air suspension, makes for a very good drive. Plus we have two automatic roll control programs, one for Comfort and Comfort+, a more sport orientated program for Sport and Sport+. After living with AD for over 4-years, it would be the option I would miss most of all in a 5-series. You can run softer suspension without losing body control. |
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