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12-14-2010, 12:45 PM | #45 | |
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I have a high end system at home so I know what good quality audio sounds like - and I think the standard system is fine for a no cost option. It's certainly not perfect, of course. The biggest let down is that the bass could be tighter - but that can be corrected to a degree by turning down the bass a little. As always, try before you buy to avoid dissapointment. Last edited by krell; 12-14-2010 at 12:52 PM.. |
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12-15-2010, 03:47 AM | #47 | |
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12-15-2010, 06:25 AM | #48 | |
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I've been involved in audio for over 25 years and have designed my own speakers in the past. I know that a midrange speaker by definition is limited in the range of frequencies it can reproduce, starting at around 300 Hz and stopping at around 5000 Hz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-range_speaker Note that the accepted audible range is between 20 Hz and 20,000 Hz. I have the standard audio system and it is clear that the upper range goes way beyond 5000 Hz. Besides, it makes no sense at all that BMW would install a system that is limited to around 5000 Hz and ignores the upper 15,000 Hz. It would be an incredibly stupid thing to do. What they have, therefore, is a full range speaker that can handle middle and high frequencies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-range Why do some speaker systems employ separate midrange speakers and tweeters? Because it is generally accepted that a speaker that has been optimized to work in a specific frequency range will work better than a speaker that needs to work over a broader range of frequencies. But it depends on the speaker and it's supporting electronics. Some of the very best speakers out there employ two speakers only - a bass/midrange speaker and a tweeter. |
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12-15-2010, 07:25 AM | #49 |
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Okay, if we assume it is a misuse of terms by BMW for the standard sound system:
From your link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-range In the critical reaction section it says: 'Reproducing multiple frequencies with the same diaphragm causes intermodulation distortion, a non-linear effect that occurs when one surface attempts to reproduce both frequencies simultaneously. The audible severity of modest 'intermodulation distortion' is not well established. The result is a degree of "frequency mixing", albeit at a relatively low level. A full range driver may have reduced output at both ends of its frequency range, or a more severely limited frequency response, resulting in a more compromised sound'. The description sounds about right in terms of what I can hear through the standard sound system, 'intermodulation' distortion at mid to high volume levels. The bass doesn't sound right either, presumably that's coming from the sub-woofers. Last edited by jj9876; 12-15-2010 at 11:37 AM.. |
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12-15-2010, 10:04 AM | #50 | |
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BMWs competitors are using 10 speakers and 400 watts in their cars. It's not suprising 100W total with no separate amp and 6 speakers in a BMW does not sound good. |
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12-15-2010, 11:32 AM | #51 |
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Another possible indication that the basic system is compromised, is the fact that the basic UK system is not available in the US. Their basic system is HiFi Business.
What possible business reason would make BMW decide to put HiFi Business as the basic system in the US? |
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12-18-2010, 07:06 AM | #52 | |
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It's clear BMW knows this very well, but still decided to sell it in some countries. |
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10-28-2011, 12:52 PM | #53 |
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05-16-2012, 02:12 PM | #54 |
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Sorry to bring up an old topic, but just wondering if anyone in the UK has sucessfully upgraded the basic sound system?
I'm thinking of fitting a set of the top hi-fi tweets as a start. |
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06-18-2012, 11:03 AM | #56 |
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One thing has to be made clear here, the standard system on US-spec cars is not the same as the hi-fi loudspeaker system (or business hi-fi in UK speak) available in other markets.
The standard US system has 10 speakers & an analogue amp, the hi-fi system (option 676) has 12 speakers & digital amp. Option 676 is not available in the US. |
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06-18-2012, 02:44 PM | #57 |
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H/K as in Harman Kardon? But that's not an option in the F10. What sound system options do you get in Taiwan?
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06-18-2012, 05:10 PM | #58 |
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06-18-2012, 11:02 PM | #61 |
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Ok, for Taiwan spec F10 all models from 520i to Activehybrid have 6 speakers as standard. Info source from bmw.com.tw. If that is correct then both hi-fi & prof hi-fi are optional extras.
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06-18-2012, 11:27 PM | #62 |
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Get whatever sounds good. The professional system sounds pretty good to me.
You're never going to get an audiophile system for 4 or 8 grand. A good, top of the line audiophile setup at home usually costs at least $ 150 K, can even reach 500K, this includes room treatments, bass traps, speakers such as Magico/Avalon Acoustics (70 - 110 K for a decent top of the line pair), Spectral Audio amp, preamp, and cd unit (min. 60-70 K for the hardware, 120K if you go with Krell), and at least 30-40 K in cabling (MIT cables). Then you need premium audio software/cd's to run, they can be gold plated etc. Very expensive. The only truly good sound system on a vehicle is the Burmeister system for Porsche. |
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06-20-2012, 06:38 AM | #63 | |
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and i'm going to get a 528 this year, i'm wandering choose the hi-fi or not... |
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06-20-2012, 11:55 AM | #64 |
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If within budget get at least the hi-fi. The std 6 speakers cost time & money to upgrade aftermarket, cos I suspect it's designed like the E9x where the rear speaker outputs are not full range.
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05-22-2014, 06:40 AM | #65 |
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Last edited by suj999; 05-22-2014 at 06:49 AM.. |
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11-28-2014, 11:15 AM | #66 |
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Amen. Stereo controls are limited in the F10 and the stock system is terrible, the BSW upgrade is well worth it
Last edited by RPLB530; 11-29-2014 at 03:49 PM.. |
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