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      10-07-2023, 08:47 PM   #155
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And the Merc's with soft tires looked really bad at this track..
RUS went full attack ,and for a moment he was P1 . But his soft tires were gone very quickly in (8 laps)!
And the race is 57 laps ..That's something to think about for Mercedes !
LEW tried to manage his tires , but that didn't help him much because he lost pace..

MAX started with mediums , that's why he got lack of grip and that's why the McLaren's and the Merc's had a better start with softs and MAX lost 2 positions..
3 more laps and MAX got Piastri while MAX got orders to just bring it home ..
But the McLaren's are extremely fast again !

Yeah , with the 3 mandatory pitstops MAX will start with softs too ..

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Ric's return is planned at COTA (Oktober 22)
Max got a shit start let's be honest. He doesn't have the best track record.

Nice to see the McLaren's up there. Was starting to get boring just like the Merc era.
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Heard tonight that FIA may consider - further to advice by Pirelli (who are concerned about tire longevity/safety on the Qatar race track after finding worrisome cuts on tires after the qualies) - to impose prior to the race a mandatory 3-pitstop for all drivers.

Start of the Sprint earlier today was postponed with 20 minutes further to discussion with Pirelli:

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And the Merc's with soft tires looked really bad at this track..
RUS went full attack ,and for a moment he was P1 . But his soft tires were gone very quickly in (8 laps)!
And the race is 57 laps ..That's something to think about for Mercedes !
LEW tried to manage his tires , but that didn't help him much because he lost pace..

MAX started with mediums , that's why he got lack of grip and that's why the McLaren's and the Merc's had a better start with softs and MAX lost 2 positions..
3 more laps and MAX got Piastri while MAX got orders to just bring it home ..
But the McLaren's are extremely fast again !

Yeah , with the 3 mandatory pitstops MAX will start with softs too ..

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Ric's return is planned at COTA (Oktober 22)
Decision if to implement the tyre 3 stops will be discussed at 2PM local time by Pirelli and FIA.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/24199...on-sunday.html
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Decision if to implement the tyre 3 stops will be discussed at 2PM local time by Pirelli and FIA.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/24199...on-sunday.html
Pirelli: hey FIA, our tires are suss bro. we're not sure how long they last.

FIA: Piri bro we know, that's why we put Michelins on our personal cars. but we like your tires, race gets too boring without your tires blowing up. need to bring out the Mercedes to lead the race for a few laps here and there.

Pirelli: you still getting them phone calls bro?

FIA: bro, them emails man, emails.
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i hope y'all drive on Michelins

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/04/19/michelin-f1/
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Pirelli: hey FIA, our tires are suss bro. we're not sure how long they last.

FIA: Piri bro we know, that's why we put Michelins on our personal cars. but we like your tires, race gets too boring without your tires blowing up. need to bring out the Mercedes to lead the race for a few laps here and there.

Pirelli: you still getting them phone calls bro?

FIA: bro, them emails man, emails.
The Pyramid shaped kerb side is the problem at Qatar.
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Max got a shit start let's be honest. He doesn't have the best track record.

Nice to see the McLaren's up there. Was starting to get boring just like the Merc era.
Sure . MAX got a 5H1T start ,as I said and we know why..
Let's see how the start goes this evening , hopefully MAX starts with softs too .

Yes . It's really nice to see the McLaren's up there , and to see how they beat the Merc's ...

I expect a very chaotic race due to the 3 mandatory pitstops ..
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"F1: ‘Pyramid’ curbs are a Pirelli tire killer in Qatar"
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As I said : 3 X World Champion in a row = 3 X stars on MAX's helmet !

The combination Red Bull stealth blue and gold looks fantastic !

***2021-2022-2023***

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Decision if to implement the tyre 3 stops will be discussed at 2PM local time by Pirelli and FIA.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/24199...on-sunday.html
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As I said : 3 X World Champion in a row = 3 X stars on MAX's helmet !

The combination Red Bull stealth blue and gold looks fantastic !

***2021-2022-2023***

A triple star is better than a twin
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MAX is certainly Kelly's hero, but she would prefer he remove his helmet first
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"F1: ‘Pyramid’ curbs are a Pirelli tire killer in Qatar"
These Qatar curbs look like a neck breaker !
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These Qatar curbs look like a neck breaker !
Pirelli's analysis of returned tires used in Friday's sole practice session found a small separation in the sidewall between the topping compound and the carcass cords on many of those used for around 20 laps. A significant number of additional laps on these tires could result in circumferential damage of the tires with subsequent air loss.

So that's gonna be a mandatory three-stop.

I recall that there used to be a meme posted in this section in the past, showing curbs replaced by cheese graters.
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Pirelli's analysis of returned tires used in Friday's sole practice session found a small separation in the sidewall between the topping compound and the carcass cords on many of those used for around 20 laps. A significant number of additional laps on these tires could result in circumferential damage of the tires with subsequent air loss.

So that's gonna be a mandatory three-stop.

I recall that there used to be a meme posted in this section in the past, showing curbs replaced by cheese graters.
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MAX is certainly Kelly's hero, but she would prefer he remove his helmet first
Mario Andretti about MAX...

Andretti says the same thing I always said : This is just the beginning !

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Pirelli's analysis of returned tires used in Friday's sole practice session found a small separation in the sidewall between the topping compound and the carcass cords on many of those used for around 20 laps. A significant number of additional laps on these tires could result in circumferential damage of the tires with subsequent air loss.

So that's gonna be a mandatory three-stop.

I recall that there used to be a meme posted in this section in the past, showing curbs replaced by cheese graters.
https://racingnews365.com/fia-confir...-tyre-concerns
Maximum of 18 laps over a stint or it's a DQ for a driver going over.
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New day, new troubles for Perez.

If in the first place Perez had better qualified (the RBR19 is the best performing car of this season), he would have started the Sprint with the front runners, had not been required to muscle his way through the pack, would have limited chances to get entangled in a crash with a Haas (P9) and an Alpine (P8) in lap 11/19 (3 DNFs allowing Hamilton (P11) to move at once into the points from P11 to P8), would not have totaled his chassis ("Chassis 01 got damaged beyond repair during the accident in the Sprint"), would have had a chance to get WDC and WCC points during the Sprint, would not have caused repair costs for RBR and 'one chassis down' and would have lowered the risk of losing #2 in the WDC to Hamilton.

Stewards are deciding over the Parc Fermé Conditions violation.

The sequence of unfortunate events continues for Perez.

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News from Pirelli: maximum 18 laps per tire.

"Maximum number of laps permitted for the race on each single set including all tyres history: 18 laps.
Laps to the grid, formation laps and laps following the chequered flag for the Sprint and Race will not be counted. For the used sets effective number of laps considered from previous sessions will be the total amount, reduced by 2 laps. For the sake of clarity a document with remaining laps available for each set will be distributed to the teams."


That's at least 3 pit stops for a 57 laps race (theoretically: start-18 | 18-36 | 36-54 | 54-57 (finish)) = a very busy pit lane tonight (20 drivers = at least 60 pit stops if they'd all reach the chequered flag).

It's all gonna be quite entertaining with the "maximum 18 laps" rule imposed. I guess that they could have set the limit at 20 laps, but didn't for safety reasons: teams would have tried to go for only 2 pit stops. Now we will have all sorts of tire strategies with at least 3 pit stops per driver.

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The 2021-2022-2023 F1 World Champion !

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