[MmmmmM2]

Interesting! I know that the B58 in my 18 340i never burned any oil so this seems odd.

[FaRKle!]

So my cousin needed help clearing a fault on his Supra today (airbag warning from when he took out his seats during some modding), and it turns out BMW ISTA will connect, read, and operate the car, so you don't absolutely require the Toyota version of ISTA that BMW made to work with the new A90/J29.

[supra93]

Update vid

[brad850csi]

watch from 10:00 to 10:20 then from about 13:00

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by brad850csi

watch from 10:00 to 10:20 then from about 13:00

The issue is blatantly obvious; over and over and over and over and over and over...

[OkieSnuffBox]

Just for fun I looked up 2021 Supra's again, I keep getting drawn back to them.

It's hilarious how many dealers are asking as much $10k over MSRP, when you can find them all over the country for $4-6k under.

Are people really this stupid/lazy they would pay $10k over, vs a plane ticket and a drive home?

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by brad850csi

watch from 10:00 to 10:20 then from about 13:00

Well that is pretty shitty I must say.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

Well that is pretty shitty I must say.

What part exactly?

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by lemetier

What part exactly?

The traction control issue.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

The traction control issue.

What traction control issue?

That's not what is going on there. All one has to do is look at the cluster. As soon as the car goes over 20km/h with the triggering problem they created present, the result is exactly what it should be. Cant fix stupid.

[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by lemetier

What traction control issue?

That's not what is going on there. All one has to do is look at the cluster. As soon as the car goes over 20km/h with the triggering problem they created present, the result is exactly what it should be. Cant fix stupid.

Tyre pressures? At the end they talk about how other people have experienced the same thing with the TPMS working correctly (of course that might be heresy)

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by lemetier

What traction control issue?

That's not what is going on there. All one has to do is look at the cluster. As soon as the car goes over 20km/h with the triggering problem they created present, the result is exactly what it should be. Cant fix stupid.

Oh.

[MaC-N54-E82]

While having my FJ60 serviced I spent some quality time in a 2021 Supra. As much as I wanted to love it, I could not get over its appearance. And this is coming from a Toyota and BMW fan boy. In theory the Supra is my perfect car. In reality it looks forced and contrived. The cockpit also made my 135i feel spacious and don't get me started on the visibility. I would go M2 all day, every day.

[Sublime00]

Originally Posted by MaC-N54-E82

While having my FJ60 serviced I spent some quality time in a 2021 Supra. As much as I wanted to love it, I could not get over its appearance. And this is coming from a Toyota and BMW fan boy. In theory the Supra is my perfect car. In reality it looks forced and contrived. The cockpit also made my 135i feel spacious and don't get me started on the visibility. I would go M2 all day, every day.

Another factor to consider, prob one of the most important ones, is that a Supra and m2 are $10 to $20k apart in price depending on trim.

Also no manual in Supra.

I mentioned this in another Supra vs M2 post, but if the car had a manual, it would def eat into M2 sales.

But in terms of usability, M2 def wins out. Looks are subjective, but I can see lots of people liking the Supra aesthetic.

[mr2t]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Just for fun I looked up 2021 Supra's again, I keep getting drawn back to them.

It's hilarious how many dealers are asking as much $10k over MSRP, when you can find them all over the country for $4-6k under.

Are people really this stupid/lazy they would pay $10k over, vs a plane ticket and a drive home?

I'm seeing a lot of dealers trying to sell used Supras over msrp. This is the worst I found. https://www.martinautomart.com/vdp/1...Green-KY-42104

[supra93]

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by mr2t

I'm seeing a lot of dealers trying to sell used Supras over msrp. This is the worst I found. https://www.martinautomart.com/vdp/1...Green-KY-42104

LoL, back in September I could have got one brand new in my area for about $45k.

[supra93]

[SickGTR]

Originally Posted by supra93

The sound is just MAGIC!!!! I'm not the biggest fan of the new ones, but that's a bad ass little car!!

[supra93]

4/21: 987
Grand total: 11,483

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toy...-figures.2061/

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by supra93

4/21: 987
Grand total: 11,483

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/toy...-figures.2061/

Wow, the Z4 is dead.

[ntg44]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Just for fun I looked up 2021 Supra's again, I keep getting drawn back to them.

It's hilarious how many dealers are asking as much $10k over MSRP, when you can find them all over the country for $4-6k under.

Are people really this stupid/lazy they would pay $10k over, vs a plane ticket and a drive home?

There's a dealer near me that still has the same black launch edition with the red mirrors at 10k markup. It was delivered right at the beginning of Supra deliveries and has just been sitting there ever since. I go there every few months to pick up an oil filter and I haven't seen a single Supra there besides that unit since it arrived.

Some dealerships just don't care. They don't want to waste time entertaining/haggling with an enthusiast when they can unload minivans and crossovers in a fraction of the effort.