[mike@x-ph.com]

Features
Maximizes airflow to the engine.
Heat shield helps block hot engine air.
More aggressive and sporty induction sound.
Easy to maintain DRY cone air filter.

Vehicle Fitment
2011-2016 BMW F10 N55 535i

[ezaircon4jc]

CARB certified?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

CARB certified?

Nope

[Sylverlee]

How much is this? Looks like it mounts somewhere completely diff from the other brands?

[FdisFingF10]

Originally Posted by Sylverlee

How much is this? Looks like it mounts somewhere completely diff from the other brands?

I was thinking the same. Seems like it just eliminates the entire climb from driver's side grill duct up and over the engine, and reduces it to just directly above the inlet which with the heatshield could have good potential.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Nope

Oh well...

Looks like a nice upgrade.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Sylverlee

How much is this? Looks like it mounts somewhere completely diff from the other brands?

https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1809310

[gabypr]

Do this intake require a sensor relocalization?

[95blkmax]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Features
Maximizes airflow to the engine.
Heat shield helps block hot engine air.
More aggressive and sporty induction sound.
Easy to maintain DRY cone air filter.

Vehicle Fitment
2011-2016 BMW F10 N55 535i

Hi Mike! Im really interested in this!! But I'd like to see it installed before spending that much money. Maybe MST would sponsor one of the few F10 N55 YouTubers to install and review it? Perhaps with a proper before and after dyno, not just a hyped up "omg it feels so much better!" opinion, .

I think the design is great, but I'm wondering about the wiring and plumbing. Such as the crank case vent line, the evap breather line, and the MAF relocation that it seems it will need. There's no mention of any of that on the MST listing. If they can prove that their design is superior to the rest and have dyno's to back it up, then I'd be a buyer for sure! It would significantly clean up the engine bay as well!

Again, I'm really liking this and love the fact that a manufacturer like MST went outside the box and is giving us a "revolutionary" design of an intake. However, at that ballpark price, we were told by aFe that we'd get 30WHP with their intake... which clearly wasn't true (if I recall, it made about as much power as the stock N55 airbox with a K&N panel filter but at a fraction of the aFe intake's cost). At that price range, I'd want more information. So I'm definitely looking forward to seeing reviews about this product prior to spending that kind of money on an intake. Do you think you can share this idea with them? Thanks!

[Gjohnson7]

@mike@x-ph.com

I have a growing YouTube channel and would be interested in reviewing this product.

https://youtube.com/user/Gjohnson7771


Product definitely looks promising.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

I'll take one for free too while you are handing them out, thanks. I've PM'd you my address.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

I'll take one for free too while you are handing them out, thanks. I've PM'd you my address.

[beegeezy]

I really don’t think an aftermarket intake on a fuel injected, forced induction vehicle is going to do anything other than look cool and make noise. If the stock intake is a bottleneck, sure...but is that the case? Without proof that this improves something that needs improving, this is basically throwing a GTR or VTEC sticker on your car.

However, the manufacturer isn’t claiming a hp/tq improvement either.

[FdisFingF10]

Originally Posted by beegeezy

I really don’t think an aftermarket intake on a fuel injected, forced induction vehicle is going to do anything other than look cool and make noise. If the stock intake is a bottleneck, sure...but is that the case? Without proof that this improves something that needs improving, this is basically throwing a GTR or VTEC sticker on your car.

However, the manufacturer isn’t claiming a hp/tq improvement either.

Decluttering the top rear of the engine bay is enough reason for me. I'll be one of the guinea pigs in it for "moh' powah' baybeh" here soon.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

Originally Posted by beegeezy

I really don’t think an aftermarket intake on a fuel injected, forced induction vehicle is going to do anything other than look cool and make noise. If the stock intake is a bottleneck, sure...but is that the case? Without proof that this improves something that needs improving, this is basically throwing a GTR or VTEC sticker on your car.

However, the manufacturer isn’t claiming a hp/tq improvement either.

If you don't realize the drawbacks of a stock intake, you should do your research, 100% it is a bottleneck and was not designed for performance but for the goals of a high end car like this was when it was new on the lot. Now we get them and repurpose it, so this would be a must have to open things up.

[beegeezy]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

If you don't realize the drawbacks of a stock intake, you should do your research, 100% it is a bottleneck and was not designed for performance but for the goals of a high end car like this was when it was new on the lot. Now we get them and repurpose it, so this would be a must have to open things up.

Where does the stock intake path become a bottleneck? At what point or points does it reduce airflow where an aftermarket intake would help? I’m genuinely curious.

Mods that improve airflow efficiency are nice, but I want to see data backing that up. And I mean repeatable, not explainable by margins of error on a dyno. Otherwise, this is a mod for looks and sound...which is perfectly fine. And again, the manufacturer isn’t claiming anything.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

It has been widely discussed on these forums and if you just go and look at the stock intake system you can find the bottlenecks. If you follow it all the way to the turbo inlet it is even worse. Add other mods on top of a stock air box and it would just exacerbate the issue as you try to pull more air for more boost etc. So gains on this mod alone are negligible on a 100% stock set up, but would become more noticeable the more you add on. Wouldn't surprise me if they manufacturer didn't give numbers since there are so many factors at play when you move beyond 'just' an intake.

[95blkmax]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

It has been widely discussed on these forums and if you just go and look at the stock intake system you can find the bottlenecks. If you follow it all the way to the turbo inlet it is even worse. Add other mods on top of a stock air box and it would just exacerbate the issue as you try to pull more air for more boost etc. So gains on this mod alone are negligible on a 100% stock set up, but would become more noticeable the more you add on. Wouldn't surprise me if they manufacturer didn't give numbers since there are so many factors at play when you move beyond 'just' an intake.

That is a good point indeed

I along with many here are already at FBO or above status. If there's a gain to be had there we'd see more of it than someone with stock/ stage1 mod levels. This intake would eliminate a good 5-6ft (est) of intake piping just to the turbo inlet pipe. As much as I love that idea, I don't love it $440 worth . At that price I'd want that, AND the proof that it would make ME more more power (not to mention, I'd want to see that it can maintain a proper idle with the relocated MAF sensor that it seems to need). The extending wires part doesn't scare me at all; but again, I'd want to see if it can hold a smooth idle.

I'm really excited by this product and can't wait to see these questions addressed! It's certainly creating a lot of buzz!

[beegeezy]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

It has been widely discussed on these forums and if you just go and look at the stock intake system you can find the bottlenecks. If you follow it all the way to the turbo inlet it is even worse. Add other mods on top of a stock air box and it would just exacerbate the issue as you try to pull more air for more boost etc. So gains on this mod alone are negligible on a 100% stock set up, but would become more noticeable the more you add on. Wouldn't surprise me if they manufacturer didn't give numbers since there are so many factors at play when you move beyond 'just' an intake.

I have read plenty about the turbo inlet. I think that’s a known weak point with a larger turbo. Does the stock intake before the turbo inlet get reduced that small though? Is this intake made to attach directly to the turbo inlet?

I’ve read BMW doubles’ thread about his custom intake but I haven’t seen the stock intake, other than the turbo inlet, discussed much.

Edit: I did see the thread about the K&N panel filter making as much power as the afe intake. That’s what I’m getting at.

[Unspec]

Originally Posted by 95blkmax

I think the design is great, but I'm wondering about the wiring and plumbing. Such as the crank case vent line, the evap breather line, and the MAF relocation that it seems it will need. There's no mention of any of that on the MST listing. If they can prove that their design is superior to the rest and have dyno's to back it up, then I'd be a buyer for sure! It would significantly clean up the engine bay as well!

My guesses as to the relocations attached.

This product definitely needs more than butt dyno results to justify its price tag. From a flow stand point, this looks less efficient than the stock airbox. It's now pulling from the air inside it's self made "box" instead of having air forced into the airbox via plumbing, lowering intake air velocity. Maybe it won't make a difference and the shortened run makes up for it, but it's hard to say.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

I would love to buy just that 90 degree elbow and turn it to run the intake out the front behind the grill. Like BMWdoubles did.

Can I buy just the elbow!?!

[95blkmax]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

I would love to buy just that 90 degree elbow and turn it to run the intake out the front behind the grill. Like BMWdoubles did.

Can I buy just the elbow!?!

that's exactly what I was thinking! lol Taking that pax side scoop to feed cool air into the newly formed filter box