[addy27]

haha adding more confusion or clarity, whichever way you look at it, you should be able to install stock M5/M6 rear brake calipers/carriers with the 370x24 rear rotors from the F01, onto your F10s. Here is my latest fit check, have not swapped the setup yet since I maybe switching my DSC and didn't want to bleed the system twice..

[kohli71]

As the title states I have begun to play around with retrofitting brakes from other BMW vehicles on my F10 535i xDrive in hopes of achieving cheaper options for an upgrade in brake performance. Hopefully this thread will be a nice source of information for others wishing to do the same and possibly help out with what fits and what doesn't.

So far from my online research and personal experience it seems that (7 Series ) F01 front brake calipers and rotors are a direct bolt on to our cars. Bigger caliper while still a single piston, uses a 374x36 Rotor. The stock F01 rear calipers do not fit as the F01 doesn't use the electronic brake on its caliper.

It seems that E60 stuff may fit on the front as well based on online research but not entirely sure as I have not tried it personally. E60 M5 calipers are cheap and 2 pistons with a 374x36 rotor as well.

G11 Brakes sadly did not fit. I was able to bolt them on my F10 and the front calipers themselves mount up to the carrier but will not work due several design changes of the cars. BMW went from 5x120 to 5x112 bolt pattern, therefore the brake pad of the G11 caliper interferes with the hub of the 5x120 rotor, it also was not centered on the rotor itself, but a washer or spacer could have fixed that. The rear G11 calipers did not fit at all.

I am in the process of fitting the front brakes from an E70 X5M/X6M. These brakes are massive and are a Brembo caliper with four pistons. The rotors are also massive at 395x36. So far the X5M caliper bolts on to the stock carrier without an adapter and everything appears to line up. Still waiting on new brake pads and rotors I ordered to fit everything up and test them.

[daddylonglegs]

Originally Posted by kohli71

As the title states I have begun to play around with retrofitting brakes from other BMW vehicles on my F10 535i xDrive in hopes of achieving cheaper options for an upgrade in brake performance. Hopefully this thread will be a nice source of information for others wishing to do the same and possibly help out with what fits and what doesn't.

So far from my online research and personal experience it seems that (7 Series ) F01 front brake calipers and rotors are a direct bolt on to our cars. Bigger caliper while still a single piston, uses a 374x36 Rotor. The stock F01 rear calipers do not fit as the F01 doesn't use the electronic brake on its caliper.

It seems that E60 stuff may fit on the front as well based on online research but not entirely sure as I have not tried it personally. E60 M5 calipers are cheap and 2 pistons with a 374x36 rotor as well.

G11 Brakes sadly did not fit. I was able to bolt them on my F10 and the front calipers themselves mount up to the carrier but will not work due several design changes of the cars. BMW went from 5x120 to 5x112 bolt pattern, therefore the brake pad of the G11 caliper interferes with the hub of the 5x120 rotor, it also was not centered on the rotor itself, but a washer or spacer could have fixed that. The rear G11 calipers did not fit at all.

I am in the process of fitting the front brakes from an E70 X5M/X6M. These brakes are massive and are a Brembo caliper with four pistons. The rotors are also massive at 395x36. So far the X5M caliper bolts on to the stock carrier without an adapter and everything appears to line up. Still waiting on new brake pads and rotors I ordered to fit everything up and test them.

Do you know any cheaper options for the rear calipers? I have a 535i f10, and I hate the single piston look. Want something like the front calipers or the rear caliper look off an M4. I know there is a big brake kit but im not spending 2 grand. Let me know if you have a solution

[addy27]

Sooo I was just looking and in Europe, the X5s and X6s also had another brake option (385x36) that "should" be a direct fit on the F10s:

This is the Caliper that is bigger than the 760i/750i (EUR) caliper but smaller than the X5m :
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=34_1584

And the corresponding rotor:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=34_0976

This probably is the best non M upgrade that could be done..but someone will have to try it out..Wish it was available state side!

[Tevzadze2.0]

Originally Posted by DARKKN1GHT

The cheaper option for the 374x36 front rotors could be F01 rotors since they make drilled and slotted aftermarkets and they fit our cars.

Where did you find slotted and or drilled F01 374x36 rotors ? I followed the guide here and got the calipers but can find nicer looking rotors

[_des_]

Originally Posted by Tevzadze2.0

Where did you find slotted and or drilled F01 374x36 rotors ? I followed the guide here and got the calipers but can find nicer looking rotors

Pm me. I'm a vendor for r1 concepts. I can get you a little discount.

[gspannu]

Anyone recommend better brake pads for a UK spec F10 535d?

Coming up for replacement... and wanted something better than BMW stock. Not keen on changing the whole brake setup; but is there a better pad compared to the stock ones?

Thanks...

[MagaTrain45]

Originally Posted by .BMW.

Looking forward to follow your progress.

I have also looked into what brake differences there are within the F10 range. The stock brakes differs in the US compared to Europe.

Example for front F10 brakes below:

535i (US) uses 2-piece non-directional 348x30 rotors.
Partnr. 34 11 6 786 820
Caliper housing.
L: partnr. 34 11 6 792 689
R: partnr. 34 11 6 792 690
Caliper carrier.
Partnr. 34 11 6 792 691
Brake pads.
Partnr. 34 11 6 850 885

535i/535d (Eu) use the same brakes as 550i (US), that is 2-piece directional 348x36 rotors.
L: partnr. 34 11 6 785 669
R: partnr. 34 11 6 785 670
Caliper housing.
L: partnr. 34 11 6 786 817
R: partnr. 34 11 6 786 818
Caliper carrier.
Partnr. 34 11 6 786 820
Brake pads.
Partnr. 34 11 6 851 269

550i in Europe instead uses 2-piece directional 374x36 rotors.
L: partnr. 34 11 6 785 675
R: partnr. 34 11 6 785 676
Caliper housing.
L: partnr. 34 11 6 786 817
R: partnr. 34 11 6 786 818
Caliper carrier.
Partnr. 34 11 6 786 829
Brake pads.
Partnr. 34 11 6 851 269

So one simple mod for 535 and 550 owners in the US is to order European 550i front brakes, if you have 550i only brake caliper carriers, pads and rotors are needed (calipers is the same). For 535 carriers, calipers, rotors and pads are needed.

Do you know if there will be clearing issues with stock BMW 18 rims (link: LA Wheel, Star Spoke 365)? I like to keep my car appearing stock as possible (sleeper effect).

It appears caliper housing for the 535i EU and 550i EU are identical per the parts number listed above. Naturally the rotors are bigger for the 550i EU therefore different pads and carriers part no, wonder if the biggest rotors (550i EU) will fit mine (535i US), if not then I will have to order the 535i EU spec'd Rotors, carriers, pads. Nearly all ebay listing (used in US) come with both things caliper & carrier spec'd for the 550 EU version since they all from 7 series part outs.


Thank you

[ptrkp]

18" oem rims will fit the European F10 550i and the F01 760i callipers with 374 mm rotors

F10 550i
34116786817
34116786818
34116786829

F01 760i
34116786827
34116786828
34116786829

[ramman434]

Since I don't have the time to roll through almost 10 pages...On my US Spec 535i, can I directly bolt-on US/EU Spec 550i brakes?

I've never done a brake job before and my rears are almost finished, so I figure I may as well upgrade everything. I was hoping to do a 550i upgrade if that's possible without crazy modification.

[addy27]

Originally Posted by ramman434

Since I don't have the time to roll through almost 10 pages...On my US Spec 535i, can I directly bolt-on US/EU Spec 550i brakes?

I've never done a brake job before and my rears are almost finished, so I figure I may as well upgrade everything. I was hoping to do a 550i upgrade if that's possible without crazy modification.

Yes you can. No crazy mods needed. Straight forward swap (although you will need brake bleeding afterwards since you're disconnecting calipers and you'll need to purge the air from the brake lines.

[ramman434]

Originally Posted by addy27

Yes you can. No crazy mods needed. Straight forward swap (although you will need brake bleeding afterwards since you're disconnecting calipers and you'll need to purge the air from the brake lines.

Perfect, that's what I thought. I'm assuming the 550 brakes are slightly larger, which would increase the stopping power on a 535. I'd upgrade the lines to SS braided as well.

[addy27]

Originally Posted by ramman434

Perfect, that's what I thought. I'm assuming the 550 brakes are slightly larger, which would increase the stopping power on a 535. I'd upgrade the lines to SS braided as well.

You will see a slight increase for sure, should be good enough as thats the biggest size they put on for European cars with that engine. For the bigger v8 they put the bigger setup that in The USA you only fine on 760, B7 and B6 and called it the high speed braking system.

[superbogel]

Well, its my latest setup, but had quite a few problems :

I just found out that the rotor should be 355, but its being modified to 380mm and my right side is having a squak and vibration issues, its been back and forth to my friends workshop and he cant solve it at all.

it vibrates I can feel it in my steering wheel when I brake from 100km. and squaks on low speed, or slow climbing of the car when traffic and happens all on the right side only.

[Bozman52]

I've been active on this thread nearly since its inception and I felt compelled to come full circle and share that I've actually applied the info here into my car! I've upgraded the brakes on my 530d to have X5M calipers in front and 550i calipers in the rear.

So as to not further clutter this thread, I've created a separate thread specifically for the upgrade that I did: https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthr...9#post27129469

A huge thanks to the usual suspects on this thread for all the info they shared about various brake upgrades for the F10, as I never would have done this if this thread didn't exist!

I'll leave you with a few pics of the final output, but check out my separate post if you want the gory details of this mod.

[superbogel]

this looks badass!

Originally Posted by Bozman52

I've been active on this thread nearly since its inception and I felt compelled to come full circle and share that I've actually applied the info here into my car! I've upgraded the brakes on my 530d to have X5M calipers in front and 550i calipers in the rear.

So as to not further clutter this thread, I've created a separate thread specifically for the upgrade that I did: https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthr...9#post27129469

A huge thanks to the usual suspects on this thread for all the info they shared about various brake upgrades for the F10, as I never would have done this if this thread didn't exist!

I'll leave you with a few pics of the final output, but check out my separate post if you want the gory details of this mod.

[Bozman52]

Originally Posted by superbogel

this looks badass!

Much appreciated! It was a lot of work (mostly researching parts and options), so hopefully this thread will make it easier for the next person.

[Flying_Squad]

Hi all, would the 750i caliper mod, coupled with 374mm rotors, work with the following aftermarket/non OEM 20 inch wheel?

front 20 x 9 ET35

rear 20 x 10.5 ET35

It's a concave setup, so should I be concerned about clearance between the 750i caliper when using these wheels, with this brake upgrade?

[Bozman52]

Originally Posted by Flying_Squad

Hi all, would the 750i caliper mod, coupled with 374mm rotors, work with the following aftermarket/non OEM 20 inch wheel?

front 20 x 9 ET35

rear 20 x 10.5 ET35

It's a concave setup, so should I be concerned about clearance between the 750i caliper when using these wheels, with this brake upgrade?

The difference in overall caliper size between the stock F10 front calipers and the 750/760 calipers is minimal. As far as wheel diameter, there will be no issue at all (hell, you can see I stuffed X5M calipers and 395mm rotors with my 20s). Caliper clearance from the wheel spokes could be an issue, but if the wheels will work on a stock F10 brake setup, then I would be shocked if they didn't work with the 750/760 brakes as well. Again, the overall caliper dimensions are near identical as far as I'm aware.

Do you have these wheels on your car now? If so, check how much clearance there is between the spokes and caliper now.

[Flying_Squad]

Hi there Bozman.

Just had a look and measurements as follows:

3.7cm clearance rear

4.9cm clearance front

These are the distances between the current stock caliper and the part of the inner alloy wheel, which is closest to the caliper, which happens to be the central hub part of the alloy if that makes sense.

The spokes, are in excess of the above measurements, even at their respective points, whereby they curve towards the caliper. So distance between spokes and caliper is greater than the above measurements.

Hope that makes sense?

[Bozman52]

I understand what you mean by those measurements. That's what I was trying to portray in my head, so we're on the same page. In my opinion, the 750/760i calipers will be 100% fine with the wheels. You have plenty of space, and like I said, there is no real difference in overall dimensions between the two calipers.

[Flying_Squad]

Many thanks Bozman, appreciate all your contribution and knowledge regarding this mod.

Were you able to source a supplier of drilled 374mm compatible discs for the 750i calipers in the end, here in the UK?

I’ve seen some on eBay by Mtech, however not sure how reputable their discs are.