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      01-04-2020, 04:56 AM   #23
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DEC 30TH, 2019 UPDATE

We noticed that some minor lurching was starting to reappear on a sporatic basis.

With about 3,000 more miles since the original fluid change, we did a quick change just to continue to replace the unit with fresh fluid.

This time, we only used the pan drain plug and slightly less than 3 pints came out. It was not quite as dark as the original picture from my earlier posting...but still brown.

We pumped in a similar amount of new Liquid Moly from FCP. So far, it is shifting fine.

I still have some fluid left if we want to change it again in 10,000 miles.

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How did you drain the pan? FCP told me yesterday that the ZF pan drain was a plastic single use item. It can be unscrewed but brakes tabs preventing it from being securely retightened. Ill see if I can find a pic...
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How did you drain the pan? FCP told me yesterday that the ZF pan drain was a plastic single use item. It can be unscrewed but brakes tabs preventing it from being securely retightened. Ill see if I can find a pic...
You just need to replace the drain plug itself if you plan on reusing the filter/pan for some reason and the tabs don't break(it just feels like they are), they are there to prevent it from becoming loose as the tightening torque is something small like 7nm.

Also double check the torque on the new pan, mine had the plug already installed and I assumed it was torqued, good thing I double checked as it was not which would have created a nice leak down the road
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I bought the FCP Euro Kit. I figure since they have a lifetime replacement on everything including, fluids and filters, I will only have to pay for the parts once.

Another question: Do you take out the plastic pan plug and then replace it with the metal one? Or just keep the plastic one in there.
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I bought the FCP Euro Kit. I figure since they have a lifetime replacement on everything including, fluids and filters, I will only have to pay for the parts once.

Another question: Do you take out the plastic pan plug and then replace it with the metal one? Or just keep the plastic one in there.
That's a great kit and as for your question, keep the plastic plug the kit comes with, just make sure it is torqued properly. I don't remember the exact number but it's printed right on the pan something around 7 nm. Buy yourself a good torque wrench if you don't have one already it's critical.
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Just my input, but I'm at 261,000 miles and have yet to have one issue with fluids. Just saying, but I'm sure my time is coming!!
Flat Lander. Have most of those miles been in Florida? Try doing that in the mountains. My bet is you would not have made it to 120K without some tranny issues.
Yes all miles have been in Florida primarily. Straight roads, fair and consistent weather.
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Yes all miles have been in Florida primarily. Straight roads, fair and consistent weather.
That’s wonderful! I dropped my son’s Mini Cooper spare tire this weekend and it was rusted to heck. We had four inches of snow last night. While on the highway this morning my car and undercarriage was pelted by bb sized salt and cinder at 55-65 mph for an hour. Only the toughest survive these conditions.

Suspensions last 100k tops due to this abuse, further punished by potholes and dirt roads. My wife loves the BMW so...

You guys have to deal with the sun, heat, humidity and salt air near the ocean.
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Yes all miles have been in Florida primarily. Straight roads, fair and consistent weather.
That’s wonderful! I dropped my son’s Mini Cooper spare tire this weekend and it was rusted to heck. We had four inches of snow last night. While on the highway this morning my car and undercarriage was pelted by bb sized salt and cinder at 55-65 mph for an hour. Only the toughest survive these conditions.

Suspensions last 100k tops due to this abuse, further punished by potholes and dirt roads. My wife loves the BMW so...

You guys have to deal with the sun, heat, humidity and salt air near the ocean.
Yes the sun does it's share of wear, there's always construction on the highways here, and the salt surprisingly has never caused any issues with my cars as of yet. But suspensions gets its share of wear everyday!
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For the guys that recently did this, how do you refill the second time and top off without burning yourself if the car is warm already? If the main reason for filling at the right temperature is getting the right amount in, can't you just measure how much came out and make sure you put the same amount in? I saw some people jack up the passenger side to add another liter.

I'm planning on doing this on ramps, is there a way to put the car into neutral to bring it off the ramps after the first fill?

Thanks!

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For the guys that recently did this, how do you refill the second time and top off without burning yourself if the car is warm already? If the main reason for filling at the right temperature is getting the right amount in, can't you just measure how much came out and make sure you put the same amount in? I saw some people jack up the passenger side to add another liter.

I'm planning on doing this on ramps, is there a way to put the car into neutral to bring it off the ramps after the first fill?

Thanks!
IMO - Do it by the book - no guessing. The factory fill could be wrong, or you might have had a leak you didn't know about etc...

I found this process way easier than I was expecting based on my past experience with doing this on E39s. I'm pretty sure I posted here somewhere after I did my job this spring.

I wore gloves, and I put a flame protector over the exhaust pipe closest to the transmission where I might bump it with an arm. This is the kind of thing used by plumbers when they use a torch to solder and need to protect stuff behind the pipe. like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-9-...4002/100345508

With the car on stands and an assistant in the driver's seat with the ISTA laptop, I was easily able to scoot in and out and do what I needed to do to set the level.

Daunting to think about, but way easier than I was expecting.
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