[qasmaoui]

hello every one ,

this is my first thread with you so go easy on me and help

well i just purchassed a bmw F10 530D ( 07/2010 ) build

the car has issue on starting there is two scenario:

scenario 1 : got in the car put my feet on the break hit start -> the car crank for about 7 or 10 times befor starting.

Scenario 2 : got in the car hit start button wait the cluster to show all message and ( like the old cars turn ignition on ) the put my feet on the break and start the car crank 2 or 3 times and start.

the car after run just normaly. the behaviour occure each time i shut the car off
cold or hot the same

i made a video showing this behaviour

https://youtu.be/zng2OddgCzM

we did some diag using ista-d and found no communication with EKPS module error , we replaced it but no luck.tested the wires going to it and from it.

battery changed.

i dont know if its linked to issue but car also show error regarding key ( Remote control not present or fault. Engine cannot be started. See owners manual ) replaced battery fault still occure each time a open close dors

[gIzzE]

My e61 530d was doing this, I changed the battery, then a few days later it wouldn't start at all. I was presuming electronic.

It happened in the centre of London, at a petrol station with just two pumps, no one could get passed me, taxis queuing down the street, ended up buying an F11 over the phone waiting for recovery truck as was reading all sorts of horror stories.

It was the starter motor.
£80 and an hour to swap it and it was up and running good as new.

[qasmaoui]

thank you for your feedback , if the issue is the starter it would take much time on second scenario too. if i turn the ignition on then start the car start imediatly i gess !. i will try to change starter and see !

[gIzzE]

I replied on yourtube too.

I don't know why, maybe something to do with the stop start electronics? I just know mine was like this too, then it failed completely. I hadn't even considered the starter at that point.


It might not be, but for the cheap price of a starter it is probably worth trying.

Try waiting for the lights to go out as the first start. Does it still crank quicker?

[qasmaoui]

replaced the started but no luck it still dose longe crank befor starting
if i press the start button alone ( my foot not on break ) then i put my foot on break then hit start it start normaly

[rkstar9]

Maybe replace glow plugs.
other than that you might have a bad ground cable or shorted out injectors due to moisture.

[qasmaoui]

hello im heer to give good news wehen checking wy the EKPS was not comunication the mecanicien told me it was the JBE module so he used some free pins already present in the module so EKPS was detected in and by chnace he found some moistred pins which he cleaned so now car start normal
SO may be checking the JBE

imag : https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+..._AUoAHoECAEQAA