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      11-08-2019, 09:14 PM   #1299
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Interview with Art from EAG on the Supra manual conversion at SEMA. We also get to see the car all buttoned up. I have to say they did a really good job. Looks factory. Art goes into some more details which weren't really covered in his build videos. Apparently, the factory programming/software already had what they needed to accommodate the manual. They just had to tweak things a bit.

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      11-08-2019, 11:58 PM   #1301
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      11-12-2019, 06:56 PM   #1302
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Over 700 new Supra's listed on autotrader. Discounts coming, already see a few with $4k+ off. Expect to see some favorable lease rates if they continue to sit at dealers.
When I went with my mom to help her get a corolla one dealer must of had like 10 of them inside the show room. All had a $14,500 market price adjustment sticker on them.

It's alright, doesn't do anything for me. Front styling is not my favorite, but I kinda like the rest of it, inside it's basically a BMW (which I guess is good) and no manual would be a deal breaker. Just seemed like a Toyota styled BMW to me and I'm not a fan of anything BMW is doing right now in regards to performance sporty cars so....
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Still have yet to actually see one of these on the road
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Doing a quick search around here in SoCal seeing some of them being marked up to around 80K. Have they heard of the C8 and Cayman S? Or even a used Cayman GT4?
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      11-20-2019, 02:29 PM   #1307
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Good luck with Toyota reliability.
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You mean BMW reliability. Toyota reliability is pretty legendary.
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Doing a quick search around here in SoCal seeing some of them being marked up to around 80K. Have they heard of the C8 and Cayman S? Or even a used Cayman GT4?
Supra is a $40-45k car in my mind. I can purchase a much more capable C7 in the low $40k range today. And the C7 has just as much aftermarket support, if not more. The 6.2L LT1 engine can easily handle a supercharger and get you over 600HP too if that's your thing.

You can even find a slightly used 718 Cayman/Boxster in the low $40k range and actually be able to own a Porsche. I'm just not finding a compelling reason why you would spend $50k or more for a Supra. I'd rather spend that kind of money to get the Z4 instead and at least have a drop top.
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      11-20-2019, 05:48 PM   #1310
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You mean BMW reliability. Toyota reliability is pretty legendary.
That was sarcasm as Toyota assured Toyota reliability for the BMW Supra.
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Interview with Art from EAG on the Supra manual conversion at SEMA. We also get to see the car all buttoned up. I have to say they did a really good job. Looks factory. Art goes into some more details which weren't really covered in his build videos. Apparently, the factory programming/software already had what they needed to accommodate the manual. They just had to tweak things a bit.

Not surprising, b58 was in m340i which can come with a manual. Other modules such as ESP are probably pulled from the f chassis as well. Even some g20s have a manual, so if supra uses g chassis control modules, they all most likely can be coded to manual trans
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      11-23-2019, 03:21 PM   #1313
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Just saw one up close. BMW DNA is really all over it.
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Still haven't seen one in the wild yet either. Does anybody care about these cars except for auto journalists and self promoting Youtube shitheads?
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      11-23-2019, 05:37 PM   #1315
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Still haven't seen one in the wild yet either. Does anybody care about these cars except for auto journalists and self promoting Youtube shitheads?
My local dealers still have the same cars sitting at their dealerships.
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Still haven't seen one in the wild yet either. Does anybody care about these cars except for auto journalists and self promoting Youtube shitheads?
There is a black one at work. I spent a good bit of time looking at it from the outside. Was surprised no one came out and asked me what the hell I was doing hehe. Besides it being a new car, I just wasn’t gushing over it. It has solid engineering but I think the buyer is someone who always wanted a Supra and bought into the mystique of it.
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There is a black one at work. I spent a good bit of time looking at it from the outside. Was surprised no one came out and asked me what the hell I was doing hehe. Besides it being a new car, I just wasn’t gushing over it. It has solid engineering but I think the buyer is someone who always wanted a Supra and bought into the mystique of it.
Or someone who doesn't want the convertible version of it and/or the grill...ahem...Z4. I was driving down a highway and noticed a car changing into the lane I was in. Looking at my rear view mirror, the first thing that grabbed my attention was the monstrous or monstrosity of the grills on this car. I then realized it was a Z4.
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Not sure about the mentality either. The Civic Type R is suffering from the same syndrome. The mark up is almost the same as a M3/M4. Why not just walk into a BMW and get a M3/M4, or M2 and I might venture to say those are even more special to drive than the Supra or Type R. Or order a C8 at MSRP. This is no longer 1980's or 1990's.
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B58 is a "twin turbo"? "M2C doesn't look or feel like an M car" .... I recall him not being a fan of the old gen 8 cylinder M3 as well. For how detailed his reviews are, you'd think he'd at least get the basic engine architecture right.
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