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      08-27-2019, 08:32 PM   #1
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A number of vehicles on the market are having automatic braking issues

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that NHTSA is getting a lot of reports on automatic braking is applying breaks for no reason. Not just BMW, across all brands.

This is behind a paywall but you might be able to see it.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-auto...hp_featst_pos2
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      08-27-2019, 11:35 PM   #2
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The Wall Street Journal is reporting that NHTSA is getting a lot of reports on automatic braking is applying breaks for no reason. Not just BMW, across all brands.

This is behind a paywall but you might be able to see it.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-auto...hp_featst_pos2
My VW locked up the brakes once on an open road, sunny day, with a shadow from an overhead sign on the road. I've since turned off the feature entirely. It's a great idea but I've never rear ended someone and don't really plan to start.
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My truck has it and it's usually on. In the year that I've owned it I think it's activated five times? One of those times you could argue that I was braking late. (though I don't think I was going to hit anyone) The other four were annoying. One time I wasn't close to the car in front of me in slow traffic. The others were cars making right turns in front of me and the car deciding that they were still in my lane. My truck basically keeps braking until you're completely stopped, which is pretty obnoxious.
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The automatic transmission is doing a great job at creating lazy drivers, do we need more car features doing the same?
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The automatic transmission is doing a great job at creating lazy drivers, do we need more car features doing the same?
I dunno. I think these automatic braking features are helping to combat Karens and Chads texting while driving.
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My wife’s m235i has this “feature” and it’s a nightmare.

There is one particularly short highway on ramp in my neighbourhood that you need to merge quickly and usually in a tight space between cars. This “feature” does not like that. Every time I merge, it hits the brakes because I am to close to the car in front in its mind.

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My wife's m235i has this "feature" and it's a nightmare.

There is one particularly short highway on ramp in my neighbourhood that you need to merge quickly and usually in a tight space between cars. This "feature" does not like that. Every time I merge, it hits the brakes because I am to close to the car in front in its mind.

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Can you program it to the key? Mine is turned off for my key but enabled for my wife's key.
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I can’t seem too. I can turn everything else off and it stays off, but I can’t get this to stay off, or get the car to stay in sport mode either. It resets to economy mode every time I shut it off.
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I canít seem too. I can turn everything else off and it stays off, but I canít get this to stay off, or get the car to stay in sport mode either. It resets to economy mode every time I shut it off.
I think that automatic emergency braking may not be cancellable.
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It can be defeated in BMW's. Our local BMW track club has a policy that it must be disabled (for obvious reasons). They know for certain how to disable on BMW's, the other companies not as much.

Agree with other comments, the concept is good, execution not so much given the car doesn't understand enough variables (e.g. lanes, signal lights etc).
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