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      09-09-2019, 09:59 PM   #23
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And don't drive in.....Houston, Austin, or Dallas. Seriously bad traffic.
Worse than SoCal???
Nope, SoCal traffic far worse.
Having lived in LA, Orange County, Dallas and Austin I'd guess you've never tried to go east-west in Austin at rush hour?
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And don't drive in.....Houston, Austin, or Dallas. Seriously bad traffic.
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Nope, SoCal traffic far worse.
Having lived in LA, Orange County, Dallas and Austin I'd guess you've never tried to go east-west in Austin at rush hour?
I currently live in Austin so well aware how rush hour traffic is here. Traffic in Austin is bad for a city of its size, and you'll be hard pressed to find another metro area similar in size (~2.5 million) with worse traffic.

However any metro area will have traffic during rush hour, but traffic in SoCal is on a whole different level.
From sunrise to well into the evening, the highways are packed in LA. If traffic in LA was like how traffic is in Aus, I can't imagine how much more people will live in LA (assuming one can stomach the cost of living there ).
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And don't drive in.....Houston, Austin, or Dallas. Seriously bad traffic.
Austin - population has exploded the last 5 years (wonder why ); roads infrastructure slow to keep up; heavy traffic (but only during rush hours) is a consequence, people do what they can.

Houston - drivers are inconsiderate and careless full time

Dallas - drivers on opioids and seem to drive with their middle fingers up.
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And don't drive in.....Houston, Austin, or Dallas. Seriously bad traffic.
Worse than SoCal???
Nope, SoCal traffic far worse.
Having lived in LA, Orange County, Dallas and Austin I'd guess you've never tried to go east-west in Austin at rush hour?
I currently live in Austin so well aware how rush hour traffic is here. Traffic in Austin is bad for a city of its size, and you'll be hard pressed to find another metro area similar in size (~2.5 million) with worse traffic.

However any metro area will have traffic during rush hour, but traffic in SoCal is on a whole different level.
From sunrise to well into the evening, the highways are packed in LA. If traffic in LA was like how traffic is in Aus, I can't imagine how much more people will live in LA (assuming one can stomach the cost of living there ).
But generally, traffic moves in LA, barring an accident. That's not the case in Austin where things slow to a crawl at rush hour. The 5 and 405 are both functioning roads. I-35 and Mopac are generally just parking lots. And those are the easy routes, the east west roads are just silly and generally not highways.

Sure, the number of cars on LA roads is much greater than here in Austin, but the average speed has to be wildly higher for anything but the 10 heading into or out of Santa Monica. That about the only road I can think of that acted like Austin roads at rush hour.
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And don't drive in.....Houston, Austin, or Dallas. Seriously bad traffic.
If you refuse to drive, then you'll basically be staying at your hotel and the immediate vicinity as public transportation is pretty much nonexistent. In Houston the traffic isn't that bad inside 610 which is where everything you'd want to see is. There's little to no reason to go outside the loop to suburban hell.
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THANKS for all the help. My wife now fears storms so we won't be going to that area...
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But generally, traffic moves in LA, barring an accident. That's not the case in Austin where things slow to a crawl at rush hour. The 5 and 405 are both functioning roads. I-35 and Mopac are generally just parking lots. And those are the easy routes, the east west roads are just silly and generally not highways.

Sure, the number of cars on LA roads is much greater than here in Austin, but the average speed has to be wildly higher for anything but the 10 heading into or out of Santa Monica. That about the only road I can think of that acted like Austin roads at rush hour.
The 405 and 10 are the biggest parking lots in this country. LA is an absolute shit show, repeatedly ranking #1 on "worst traffic in the world" articles.

At least Austin doesn't have the geographic and infrastructure limitations of SoCal. LA is stuck with its road infrastructure. Texas has land as far as the eye can see.
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THANKS for all the help. My wife now fears storms so we won't be going to that area...
Unless there's a hurricane I don't see why ya'll shouldn't go.
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THANKS for all the help. My wife now fears storms so we won't be going to that area...
I’d be more worried about being shot or something, than a storm. Mission aborted! Good call.
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Id be more worried about being shot or something, than a storm. Mission aborted! Good call.
You're very unlikely to get shot, unless you're breaking into someone's house or if you decide to piss off a cop.
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Austin is quickly turning into a shantytown. It's awful.
austin was cool until everyone from california starting moving there and pricing out all of the locals.
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Dallas - drivers on opioids and seem to drive with their middle fingers up.
opiods? you sure you dont mean meth? at least opiods would keep them relaxed. people here drive like fucking maniacs.
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THANKS for all the help. My wife now fears storms so we won't be going to that area...
Storms... you mean Houston and Galveston. Yeah, see my first post. U welcome.
There are no storms in Austin. The only thing remotely dangerous (definitely not life threatening) are hail storms. But the ones big enough to be worth mentioning happen only once in 10 years or so. It may be fun to watch a small hail storm, especially for the kids.
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Id be more worried about being shot or something, than a storm. Mission aborted! Good call.
Ahhh.... But I shoot back!

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austin was cool until everyone from california starting moving there and pricing out all of the locals.
I actually blame it on the colleges. Seems College Towns all over the country are becoming ore and more socialist.

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Storms... you mean Houston and Galveston. Yeah, see my first post. U welcome.
There are no storms in Austin. The only thing remotely dangerous (definitely not life threatening) are hail storms. But the ones big enough to be worth mentioning happen only once in 10 years or so. It may be fun to watch a small hail storm, especially for the kids.
Fortunately the kids are gone and I've been in enough hail storms to not want to have my car ruined (totaled) by one. Though, our 1st winter in SLC we watched it snow for quite a while.
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Ahhh.... But I shoot back!
No you don't. You're not allowed to have guns in CA. LOL

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I actually blame it on the colleges. Seems College Towns all over the country are becoming ore and more socialist.
I didn't interpret his comment as related to socialism.
It was on the sheer number of people moving into Austin recently, mostly from CA due to their housing problems, and causing the traffic problems mentioned previously.
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No you don't. You're not allowed to have guns in CA. LOL
I had a concealed carry permit in El Dorado County, CA, when I lived there. At least when I lived there (2000-2004) it was possible. It was up to the Sheriff though, so it difficulty in obtaining one was kind of capricious depending on where you lived.

Left because of housing prices going nuts and general cost of living. State was going through budget and school issues, wife was a new teacher that couldn't find work, etc. Not being able to own a gun wasn't among my issues with CA.
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Yeah, that's just a stupid thing Fox News likes to say. I had concealed carry in Orange County and now in Texas. Can't say either was any different.
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