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      09-12-2019, 04:44 AM   #1
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Pix of "Lifetime" Auto Trans Fluid

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After 2 trips to the dealer (and a code reading of $160) to no avail, our intermittent 2 to 1 downshift lurching continued. This mainly happened after the trans was warm.

They claimed since there was no codes and that it occurred randomly, there was no problem. They told me to buy 4 new matching tires to ensure the diameters all match-which helped a little.

A second dealer wanted $1,115 to do a total flush!

Finally, I took a chance and ordered new fluid and a pan kit and gave it to my local garage and gave them instructions what to do (they do not work on BMW's but mostly older American cars).

They did the minimum change and drained 4 liters and then refilled w/4 liters. Did they follow the procedure to run it warm, etc....I don't know.

But I do know they refilled it with exactly 4 liters.

Even with only changing 4 of 10 liters, the transmission shifts better. The lurch is gone. We will probably change it again in 10,000 miles and keep using the same pan (new gasket).

So far, so good.

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      09-12-2019, 08:31 AM   #2
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How many miles on the original fluid?
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      09-12-2019, 10:22 AM   #3
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The impact of changing the PAN (where the filter is) may have had a larger impact than changing of 40% of the fluid.

Either way - filter and fluid are not LIFETIME and should be serviced. I only had 70,000km on my 535 and I noticed improvements.

It was a half-day job, but not all that bad. Better than I was expecting based on similar work I performed on an E39 in the past.
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Ya the entire lifetime thing is B.S., no fluid is lifetime unless your definition of lifetime is about 6 years or 70k miles. BMW is on crack saying that thinking it's a good marketing tactic. ZF themselves reccomend 70k oil/filter changes. BTW, if you loosen the valve body from the transmission (don't have to remove it). You will drain another two liters out. I'm about to do mine again along with installing new solenoids (150k on it)
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Ya the entire lifetime thing is B.S., no fluid is lifetime unless your definition of lifetime is about 6 years or 70k miles. BMW is on crack saying that thinking it's a good marketing tactic. ZF themselves reccomend 70k oil/filter changes. BTW, if you loosen the valve body from the transmission (don't have to remove it). You will drain another two liters out. I'm about to do mine again along with installing new solenoids (150k on it)
BMW isn't the only manufacturer to claim lifetime fluids.
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Hi All

I forgot to add that there were 82,000 miles on the original fluid.

Shifting continues to be better than before the change.

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just did this at 97,000
can confirm 4L is all that drains out and goes back in.

lots of metal shavings found in magnets.
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just did this at 97,000
can confirm 4L is all that drains out and goes back in.

lots of metal shavings found in magnets.
Was this the first time you changed the fluid? I've been on the fence about getting it done and I am at 94k. I know Mike had it done for first time at 135k and all seems good for him.
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just did this at 97,000
can confirm 4L is all that drains out and goes back in.

lots of metal shavings found in magnets.
Was this the first time you changed the fluid? I've been on the fence about getting it done and I am at 94k. I know Mike had it done for first time at 135k and all seems good for him.
Positive it has never been done before.
Shifting improved significantly.
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Ok, good to know. I think I will just roll the dice since 'knock on wood' the shifting seems fine for now. If problems develop then I will get it done.
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Ya the entire lifetime thing is B.S., no fluid is lifetime unless your definition of lifetime is about 6 years or 70k miles. BMW is on crack saying that thinking it's a good marketing tactic. ZF themselves reccomend 70k oil/filter changes. BTW, if you loosen the valve body from the transmission (don't have to remove it). You will drain another two liters out. I'm about to do mine again along with installing new solenoids (150k on it)
Any pics of loosing the valve body and Solenoids replacement would be appreciated
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Any pics of loosing the valve body and Solenoids replacement would be appreciated
Sure thing, actually going to make a short video on it and post it up. Will be about a week before I get to it though, doing the valve guide seals, injectors, coils, water pump, etc right now, then will be moving on to doing the transmission 150K mile refresh. Will post back here once the video is up
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