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      02-10-2024, 05:19 AM   #1
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Wow, that Mustang is pretty wicked. I'm looking forward to see the time on the Ring. I wonder how much this beast will cost?

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Isn't it supposed to be like 300k or something lol
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Will give a GT3 RS a run for it's money all being well.
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Isn't it supposed to be like 300k or something lol
Wow, that would be an insane prize for a Mustang, but someone will pay for it...no doubts.
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Will give a GT3 RS a run for it's money all being well.
It's going to kill the GT3RS on track. The one thing Americans are good at is power, and when everything else is copied from best-in-class vehicles, you've got a world beater.
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It's going to kill the GT3RS on track. The one thing Americans are good at is power, and when everything else is copied from best-in-class vehicles, you've got a world beater.
That's definitely not the "one" thing American car companies are good at, lol.

But I agree, the GTD is gonna be a track monster that will almost exclusively be sold to collectors that will never track them, lol.
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That's definitely not the "one" thing American car companies are good at, lol.
Sorry.

1. Planned obsolescence
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It's going to kill the GT3RS on track. The one thing Americans are good at is power, and when everything else is copied from best-in-class vehicles, you've got a world beater.
This is a post straight out of the 1980s.

The big german manufacturers have been dynoing their claimed horsepower at the wheels for years. BMW M550s, M3s, M5s, 911s, etc. These are making huge power with twin turbo setups, hot-Vs, tapping right off the exhaust manifold, and so on. Sure, there's the one-off Dodge Redhawkeye Muskrat making a claimed 10000hp for drag racing or whatever, but in the real world, Chevrolet and Ford have been keeping prices manageable with RWD setups and generally supercharged larger displacement engines. They don't require as much hardware as the twin turbo setups and don't see as much stress as the smaller engines pushed to higher HP amounts, like a 3.0 pushing out 500+hp at the wheels. They also generally aren't pushing out as much HP. There are some exceptions, but in the general sense, power is not unique to the American manufacturers by any stretch.

And then there's handling. GM has nailed steering pretty well for a while, especially considering how bad some european stuff, like BMW, has been. And for turning, the chassis have been pretty tight for years now. Sure, Ford has made the cheaper mustangs pretty bouncy and not very aggressive over the years, but GT350 and GT40 show that they absolutely know how to do it, if they want.

So it just depends on whether Ford dropped the money into this to make it work. They are mainly a "one chassis" sports-car company, which kind of makes it hard to cover the wide spread of "sports", from GT touring to race track to drag strip, but you dump enough money into it and you can even make rear engine car perform.

The C8 Z06 seemed targeted directly at the GT3 (non RS). Corner speeds were almost identical. Slightly faster in the straights, but NA with similar torque, not some giant disparity either. GT3 RS is a different level aerodynamically, so it is obviously faster on a course. It's also on a different level as far as livability and daily-ability...So again, Ford could have made this Mustang "even faster"...but possibly "even more compromised". At some point, it's just a "road legal race car", which sounds cool...till you actually drive one in traffic and realize how bad it is.

Still, it's good to see them developing something. Chevrolet really pushed the limit with the C8 for US sports-car development and manufacturing. Would be nice to see that continue.
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Sorry.

1. Planned obsolescence
2. Power

More like reliability, track times, spacious cabins, towing, performance bargains, bulletproof vehicles, innovation, not having relentless oil leaks...
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Ford needs 800hp to beat a gt3. Right.
The video should not compare them.
The Gt3 is a GT3 class competitor. That’s why it’s named “GT3”. Porsche is a benchmark for ford obviously, but the two cars have nothing to do with each other. Seems more like hype. I do like the stang miles better than any g80M4 though.
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Funny I just put this same video up. Ford has spent some serious cash in building their last fast ICE toy. Seriously wished I had gotten the GT350 vs the F150 Extended cab I got as a retirement gift. I would have absorbed the payments. Ex kept the truck....
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More like bargains...
Agreed, but then again, shouldn't you always get junk at a bargain? lol
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Agreed, but then again, shouldn't you always get junk at a bargain? lol
Sounds like someone is salty that he has to see all.those domestic taillights.
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Sounds like someone is salty that he has to see all.those domestic taillights.
Sounds like someone needs to take his mullet for a drive in his LS1 Camaro. lol

Not salty at all. I've been in and out of and driven more of them than 99% of the people on this board, and the only cars worse than Domestic cars are Italian cars.

But hey, to each their own!
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Sounds like someone needs to take his mullet for a drive in his LS1 Camaro. lol

Not salty at all. I've been in and out of and driven more of them than 99% of the people on this board, and the only cars worse than Domestic cars are Italian cars.

But hey, to each their own!
You keep telling yourself that. It will help as you watch domestics put down faster lap times and drag strip times and tow capacities.
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You keep telling yourself that. It will help as you watch domestics put down faster lap times and drag strip times and tow capacities.
Bro, like I care about lap times, drag strips or tow capacities. haha

You're a funny guy.
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Bro, like I care about lap times, drag strips or tow capacities. haha

You're a funny guy.
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Isn't it supposed to be like 300k or something lol
Yea, the award for the most ridiculously overpriced car ever goes to Ford.
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Yea, the award for the most ridiculously overpriced car ever goes to Ford.
It's definitely bonkers expensive, but it's also basically exclusively made with legit race car parts, so it makes sense why it costs so much.... Sort of.

They'll still sell formway over MSRP anyways.
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