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      07-06-2023, 01:51 AM   #661
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For those who did G30 brake upgrade, how was pedal feel relative to stock? And have any if you been able to test the brakesí fade resistance via road course or even auto-x?
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For those who did G30 brake upgrade, how was pedal feel relative to stock? And have any if you been able to test the brakesí fade resistance via road course or even auto-x?
Mine is rock solid. You do need to bleed it electronically via ISTA or scan tool. Stops better than stock for me. I do not autox so I canít say on brake fade but stock for stock, it should be better. Larger rotor is always better but it may vary depending on if you use OEM or aftermarket rotor. Pad matters as well. So far OEM seems to be the better option but it produces a ton of dust
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Mine is rock solid. You do need to bleed it electronically via ISTA or scan tool. Stops better than stock for me. I do not autox so I canít say on brake fade but stock for stock, it should be better. Larger rotor is always better but it may vary depending on if you use OEM or aftermarket rotor. Pad matters as well. So far OEM seems to be the better option but it produces a ton of dust
Thanks for reply. I get the F10 isnít really suited for road courses but itís nice to know I have a backup if/when my other car is inaccessible. Re larger rotors, totally agree and in fact my first preference was 374mm Euro rotors with original calipers. However the brake pad selection is still rather limited whereas the G30 calipers actually have track pads that fit.
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Regular daily driving car stop much better and the pedal feels better than stock to me.
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Hit the track today and the upgraded brakes were great. Never had any issue with brake fade and I could get deep into the brake pedal with confidence. For less than 1k, G series brakes are a no brainer if you plan on tracking the car.
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Hit the track today and the upgraded brakes were great. Never had any issue with brake fade and I could get deep into the brake pedal with confidence. For less than 1k, G series brakes are a no brainer if you plan on tracking the car.
That’s awesome. What pads did you run? Got any videos?
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Thatís awesome. What pads did you run? Got any videos?
Will post one when I stitch it together later today. I ran the OE brembo semi-met pads
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Will post one when I stitch it together later today. I ran the OE brembo semi-met pads
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I'm going to post the entire session on youtube unlisted. It's about an hour long (and 60gigs since it's from my 4k dashcam lol) so it's taking a bit to upload.
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I'm going to post the entire session on youtube unlisted. It's about an hour long (and 60gigs since it's from my 4k dashcam lol) so it's taking a bit to upload.
Nice! My track car was unavailable so I had to bring the 550i. It has the F01 rotor upgrade only, high temp fluid and tires but the car surprisingly held up well. I hit top speed of 132mph and put down a 2:56 which is 12 seconds off the pace of my Z4 M (4.1 mile course). But more importantly I’ve answered my question - yes these brakes make the F10 trackable if driven within reason (i.e. 7/10ths).



PS wipers came on when I tried to down shift using paddles and steering angle was pretty sharp .

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Hello fellow enthusiasts,

I've been closely following this thread for a few months now, and a set of G30 (348x30) front calipers has recently become available at an attractive price in my local area.

My vehicle is an F10 520i on Breyton GTS 19" rims, and the build of the 520i is quite similar to the 528i in Western countries.

I've observed that many members who upgraded to G30 calipers are using the 374 rotor, but there's limited information on the 348 rotor that comes with these calipers. I've identified two variations for the 348 rotor:
  • Variation 1 (for sale near my location):

Caliper housing left: 34116883483
Caliper housing right: 34116883484
Brake disc (348x30): 34116860909
  • Variation 2:

Brake caliper housing blue left: 34116891273
Brake caliper housing blue right: 34116891274
Brake disc left (348X36): can be replaced with 760i rotors as mentioned earlier in this thread so no trimming of pads is required.


Variation 1 is the one available for sale so my questions regarding Variation 1 are:
  1. Is Variation 1 also OEM by Brembo, and are they 4-piston calipers? I couldn't find this information online.
  2. Are the G30 calipers plug and play on the F10, except for a 4mm or 5mm washer?
  3. What rotor (348x30) would be recommended for use in Variation 1? Would the 535i's rotor be suitable?
  4. For the pads, it appears to be 34116883469 per RealOEM. Any idea if trimming is needed, or do you have recommendations for pads that do not require trimming?
  5. Is the protection plate needed to be trimmed or changed with this caliper/rotor 348? If yes, I'd like to gather all the necessary parts together.
  6. Lastly, any idea if the width of this caliper is wider than the F01 stock brakes? I attempted to change to F01 stock brakes in the past, and while they cleared the barrel of my rim, they did not clear the spokes, requiring spacers and longer bolts, which I did not proceed with.

Looking forward to your insights and expertise.

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Hello fellow enthusiasts,

I've been closely following this thread for a few months now, and a set of G30 (348x30) front calipers has recently become available at an attractive price in my local area.

My vehicle is an F10 520i on Breyton GTS 19" rims, and the build of the 520i is quite similar to the 528i in Western countries.

I've observed that many members who upgraded to G30 calipers are using the 374 rotor, but there's limited information on the 348 rotor that comes with these calipers. I've identified two variations for the 348 rotor:
  • Variation 1 (for sale near my location):

Caliper housing left: 34116883483
Caliper housing right: 34116883484
Brake disc (348x30): 34116860909
  • Variation 2:

Brake caliper housing blue left: 34116891273
Brake caliper housing blue right: 34116891274
Brake disc left (348X36): can be replaced with 760i rotors as mentioned earlier in this thread so no trimming of pads is required.


Variation 1 is the one available for sale so my questions regarding Variation 1 are:
  1. Is Variation 1 also OEM by Brembo, and are they 4-piston calipers? I couldn't find this information online.
  2. Are the G30 calipers plug and play on the F10, except for a 4mm or 5mm washer?
  3. What rotor (348x30) would be recommended for use in Variation 1? Would the 535i's rotor be suitable?
  4. For the pads, it appears to be 34116883469 per RealOEM. Any idea if trimming is needed, or do you have recommendations for pads that do not require trimming?
  5. Is the protection plate needed to be trimmed or changed with this caliper/rotor 348? If yes, I'd like to gather all the necessary parts together.
  6. Lastly, any idea if the width of this caliper is wider than the F01 stock brakes? I attempted to change to F01 stock brakes in the past, and while they cleared the barrel of my rim, they did not clear the spokes, requiring spacers and longer bolts, which I did not proceed with.

Looking forward to your insights and expertise.

m performance brakes are installed on a 374 disc, you need adapters for F10, such as spacers for calipers... they brake better than brakes from F01 with 1 piston, but cannot compare with 6 piston ones
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Four piston Cals are nice for budget, and a daily drive with a good rotors like Poweestop slotted and drilled and Ecs ss lines. More pistons more money and at that second ask yourself do I need 8pistons? I think I'm was at $1200 for everything. back just got ss lines and rotors. And I only had to trim the inside pad on the fronts.
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More pistons doesnít equal better braking for a street car. The more pistons you have the smaller they are to keep the same overall clamping force on the pads.

Bigger calipers with more pistons exist so the pads can be larger and the force can be evenly distributed over the larger pads. Offsetting the clamping force to the trailing end of the pad with different piston sizes can also help mitigate tapered pad wear.

The effective rotor diameter and the brake pad coefficient of friction have much more to do with the stopping power of the brakes. Increased rotor mass and larger pad area is for increased repetitive stopping power, as thereís more mass to absorb and more surface area to reject heat.

Stock brakes with aggressive pads will have far more stopping power than my upgraded brakes, but my larger brakes will stop consistently more times without overheating. 90% of the brake upgrade was cosmetic, for me anyway.
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if anyone needs some cheap F10 M5 rear calipers, I have some that are surplus to requirements from a set of brakes I bought recently - I only wanted / needed the fronts so have the rears on eBay.
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if anyone needs some cheap F10 M5 rear calipers, I have some that are surplus to requirements from a set of brakes I bought recently - I only wanted / needed the fronts so have the rears on eBay.
Are you including the brackets as well?

The caliper itself is the same as the 550, but the M5 bracket positions the caliper outboard to use the larger 370mm rear rotor from the F01 750/760.

The 550 bracket will obviously allow the use of the slightly smaller 550 rotor.

FYI, see the chart I posted earlier in this thread to make sure your rear brake setup works with your front brake setupÖ you donít want an overly rear-biased braking system on a street car.
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Are you including the brackets as well?

The caliper itself is the same as the 550, but the M5 bracket positions the caliper outboard to use the larger 370mm rear rotor from the F01 750/760.

The 550 bracket will obviously allow the use of the slightly smaller 550 rotor.

FYI, see the chart I posted earlier in this thread to make sure your rear brake setup works with your front brake setupÖ you donít want an overly rear-biased braking system on a street car.
Yes the whole caliper set up - carriers, calipers and handbrake mech.

On ebay listed with the global shipping programme, so easy international shipping.

Putting the link here incase they are any good for someone to use as part of the brake upgrades discussed here!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285728939...mis&media=COPY

In the case of the front calipers, no issues as they were used on my F31 - Iím running them with custom brackets and 400mm F87 M2 Comp discs and on the rear I am running F87 4 piston / 380mm rear set. Brake pedal feel is like stock and the performance is epic.
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535i to Alpina D5 Conversion

So from reading the above posts one might be able to use the F01 Alpina B7 brakes front and rear on a 2012 BMW 535i...??? for context I'm interested in building out my F10 535i into a Alpina D5. I say D5 only because its the diesel version of the N55 3.0L I6 Twin turbo. I'm also trying to gather if this is financially realistic or if I should just look into importing a F10 Alpina D/B 5... I'm also not converting my N55 to diesel but I want to convert the rest of the car as close to an Alpina D5 as possible. Any Info is greatly appreciated!
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So from reading the above posts one might be able to use the F01 Alpina B7 brakes front and rear on a 2012 BMW 535i...??? for context I'm interested in building out my F10 535i into a Alpina D5. I say D5 only because its the diesel version of the N55 3.0L I6 Twin turbo. I'm also trying to gather if this is financially realistic or if I should just look into importing a F10 Alpina D/B 5... I'm also not converting my N55 to diesel but I want to convert the rest of the car as close to an Alpina D5 as possible. Any Info is greatly appreciated!
AFAIK you should be good, but youíll need F10 M5 calipers/brackets for the rear if you want to use the 370mm rotors (assuming the Alpina rears are 370mm and not upgraded over the F01 750/760).

Someone please correct me if Iím wrong.
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