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      02-12-2024, 02:03 AM   #1
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Lightbulb 2025 Aston Martin VANTAGE: 665hp! [Finally New Tech]

One of the knocks on Aston has been it's archaic interface and infotainment system. One thing it has never lacked: Sex appeal and curbside appeal. Now it is going squarely up against the mighty 911 TT, according to the manufacture. While it may not be just as quick, it is certainly a worthy option, better looking IMO and even less expensive.





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Aston Martin has been making the Vantage for 74 years. The current generation of the two-door GT car has been on sale since 2018, and after six years on the market, it's receiving a massive update. Think of it like a regular mid-cycle facelift, but full of mechanical stuff you actually care about. New camshafts, revised gearing, chassis alterations, that sort of thing. It also looks way better.
The end result of these changes is naturally impressive. The Mercedes-sourced 4.0-liter V8 engine in the Vantage now produces a massive 656 horsepower (665PS), 153 horses over the old car. This isn't the result of just a couple more pounds of boost, but of the aforementioned cams, bigger turbos, and an altered compression ratio. A total of three new heat exchangers have been added to manage both coolant and charge air temperature. The oil cooler is also bigger. Seems like there's a lot of heat going on here.

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Aston Martin has been making the Vantage for 74 years. The current generation of the two-door GT car has been on sale since 2018, and after six years on the market, it's receiving a massive update. Think of it like a regular mid-cycle facelift, but full of mechanical stuff you actually care about. New camshafts, revised gearing, chassis alterations, that sort of thing. It also looks way better.


The end result of these changes is naturally impressive. The Mercedes-sourced 4.0-liter V8 engine in the Vantage now produces a massive 656 horsepower (665PS), 153 horses over the old car. This isn't the result of just a couple more pounds of boost, but of the aforementioned cams, bigger turbos, and an altered compression ratio. A total of three new heat exchangers have been added to manage both coolant and charge air temperature. The oil cooler is also bigger. Seems like there's a lot of heat going on here.

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The AMG V8 is backed up by the tried-and-true 8-speed ZF automatic transmission, which sends power to the rear wheels via an electronic limited-slip differential. The final drive on the diff has been shortened to 3.083:1 to enable quicker acceleration, but it hasn't affected the Vantage's long-legged top speed. The new Aston can not only sprint to 60 mph in just 3.4 seconds, but reach a top speed of 202 mph.

The new Vantage, like the old car, is glued together. In the automotive world, they call this bonding. The nature of the process allows for some flexibility in the chassis construction, which Aston has decided to take advantage of. The new car has received a revised underbody that adds torsional rigidity. The company has also repositioned one of the primary front cross-members, which it says increases the stiffness of the suspension mounting points and improves steering feel. The strut brace is lighter and stiffer, too. Who doesn't like a lighter and stiffer strut brace?

Chassis rigidity has likewise been improved out back with a variety of changes, which enable the car's new Bilstein DTX adaptive dampers to perform even better. It's hard to quantify on paper what all of this adds up to, but Aston insists that behind the wheel there are tangible differences between the new and old setups.
Software enables all of these hardware changes. Aston says the car's various traction-managing modes, launch control system, and electronic power steering have all been retuned to deliver more performance and driver engagement. The company went on at length concerning how all these systems gather data and operate, but the true test will be how it all adds up on a twisty road.

Bringing all of this technology to a stop is a braking system consisting of front 400mm steel rotors with six-piston calipers and rear 360mm rotors with four-piston calipers. A set of carbon ceramics is also optional, which sheds nearly 60 pounds of unsprung weight.
There's more changes going on here than can reasonably be listed outside of a spreadsheet, but the bottom line is, just look at the thing. It's over an inch wider than the outgoing car and the body panels have been resurfaced considerably. It's a two-door GT car with the engine up front and drive to the rear wheels. The proportions can only go so wrong. We've also already seen most of this car at Daytona, which nobody seemed to notice.

Deliveries of the new Vantage will begin in Q2 2024, with pricing likely to be announced around that time as well.
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Nice console layout. Whose infotainment screen are they using? Looks like a VAG-sourced item? Or is it MBUX?
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Beautiful car and beautiful interior. I love the integration of the screen. One of few co's that haven't gone cheapo and put in a long ipad in place of an integrated screen.
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Honestly, I quit caring about Astons when they stopped having their own motors. I would buy a Mercedes if I wanted a Mercedes.

It would be one thing if it was like, a derivative, where it has a different displacement and head sand revs higher, maybe it's single vs twin turbo or something... But when it's literally just the Mercedes 4.0t plucked out of a Mercedes box and then dropped in... No thanks. I'll buy a 911 instead.
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"The new Vantage's engine shares its layout, capacity, and Mercedes-AMG bloodline with its predecessor: a 4.0-liter twin-turbo V-8. But as with the DB12, it has been given numerous internal upgrades to boost performance, with new turbos and a heavily revised top end, as well as much better cooling"
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650hp in a front engine rear drive car. that should go well...

probably wont compete with a 911 turbo on dynamics. But sounds like an absolute autobahn rocket. the front end is an improvement as well.

current vantage prices should fall to the $70k range for a low miles 2019 example once this is out.
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"The new Vantage's engine shares its layout, capacity, and Mercedes-AMG bloodline with its predecessor: a 4.0-liter twin-turbo V-8. But as with the DB12, it has been given numerous internal upgrades to boost performance, with new turbos and a heavily revised top end, as well as much better cooling"
Yeah, that's just not enough for me at that price point. Good news for them is I'm not spending that kind of money on a car so my opinion doesn't matter, lol.
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These will be sweet when they’re $75k in 4 years. The new infotainment setup looks great. Much improved overall.
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Beautiful car and beautiful interior. I love the integration of the screen. One of few co's that haven't gone cheapo and put in a long ipad in place of an integrated screen.
This x Infinity!!!

It still annoys me to this day, the tacky, afterthought looks of these "tablets sticking out of the Dash".
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Gasoline cars are simply too complex for independent boutique marques to offer a proper, well rounded product.

Lotus, AM make great products, but the ownership experience is miserable these days. All that tech never works. They are only good to drive in a 50 mile radius around your town that has a dealer/service center. They are just not reliable to take anywhere.

Gorgeous cars though. Not sure why everyone else has such a hard time producing designs even half as beautiful.
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Nice console layout. Whose infotainment screen are they using? Looks like a VAG-sourced item? Or is it MBUX?
It’s all their own this time. Massive project. I love that it has buttons and knobs instead of a giant bolted on TV screen for everything.
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Honestly, I quit caring about Astons when they stopped having their own motors. I would buy a Mercedes if I wanted a Mercedes.

It would be one thing if it was like, a derivative, where it has a different displacement and head sand revs higher, maybe it's single vs twin turbo or something... But when it's literally just the Mercedes 4.0t plucked out of a Mercedes box and then dropped in... No thanks. I'll buy a 911 instead.
Previous model was a plug and play AMG. This one is very different with a lot of internal Aston Martin development and you won’t find it in any AMG models.
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Gasoline cars are simply too complex for independent boutique marques to offer a proper, well rounded product.

Lotus, AM make great products, but the ownership experience is miserable these days. All that tech never works. They are only good to drive in a 50 mile radius around your town that has a dealer/service center. They are just not reliable to take anywhere.

Gorgeous cars though. Not sure why everyone else has such a hard time producing designs even half as beautiful.
So you’ve owned one then?
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Gorgeous car, but the super wide rear fenders have me flinching while thinking of the rocks they catch!

Reminds me of a 177.
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So you’ve owned one then?
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650hp in a front engine rear drive car. that should go well...

probably wont compete with a 911 turbo on dynamics. But sounds like an absolute autobahn rocket. the front end is an improvement as well.

current vantage prices should fall to the $70k range for a low miles 2019 example once this is out.
I thought the engines on the new AM were placed behind the front axle?
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650hp in a front engine rear drive car. that should go well...

probably wont compete with a 911 turbo on dynamics. But sounds like an absolute autobahn rocket. the front end is an improvement as well.

current vantage prices should fall to the $70k range for a low miles 2019 example once this is out.
I hope this is what they put in the DBX707 next. Supposedly '25 MY refresh...
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I thought the engines on the new AM were placed behind the front axle?
thats true. but front-mid is still not as good as MR or RR for many reasons. which is why GM dumped that platform for a mid engine c8.
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Buddy picked up a 2019 for like $120k...and they've depreciated even more.

Great car to get 4-5 yrs used. Ballin on a budget
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It looks significantly better than the last gen. That front clip makes all of the difference. The front clip on the last gen looked very much like an MX-5 (Miata).
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Buddy picked up a 2019 for like $120k...and they've depreciated even more.

Great car to get 4-5 yrs used. Ballin on a budget
Spot on. If I didn't look 12 for my age I'd have a Vantage V8. Always loved them.
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Spot on. If I didn't look 12 for my age I'd have a Vantage V8. Always loved them.
We drove up to Monterey car week a few months ago and his BRG Vantage got a ton of attention. More than you'd expect given the price he got it for.
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