Flash Tunes

gulfstream69xr7 · 03-03-2019, 01:11 PM

Well the 2013 535XI is finally out of warranty. I've been waiting for the warranty to run out to do anything related to tuning. So now I'm in the market for an ECU flash. I don't really want to go for a bolt on or a piggyback. I'd rather go the OBD flash route.

The car is basically stock with the exception of a custom exhaust including the MPE mufflers. I don't really have any interest in replacing the downpipe, turbo, or charge pipe.

I'm interested I getting some additional performance out of the car, but don't have any interest in anything more than a stage 1 tune. It's a daily driver and I'd don't need it to be a race car. I have another toy for that. I'm interested in giving it the performance that BMW should have from the factory. I also want to be able to have it drive comfortably and economically in "Comfort" mode, as that is how my wife prefers to drive the car.

I have read good things about both Mission Performance Stage 1 and PTF Bootmod3. I like that they both seem to deliver smooth mid range performance across normally driven RPM ranges, and retain very good daily drivability.

I'd really like to hear everyone's actual experiences with the products and the companies. 've pretty much narrowed it down to these two, and I'd like to hear what people who have actually used them think of them.

Thanks!

John H. · 03-03-2019, 09:49 PM

I plan to go with a MP Stage 1 tune. Since they are local, I will pay them a visit. Heard good things. Will let you know how it goes.

Surly73 · 03-03-2019, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gulfstream69xr7

I'd really like to hear everyone's actual experiences with the products and the companies. 've pretty much narrowed it down to these two, and I'd like to hear what people who have actually used them think of them.

Thanks!

It's like we're twins.

https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1585820

(a couple of threads down)

Sylverlee · 03-03-2019, 10:50 PM

BM3 you can sell the license once, that's attractive.

Dtex535 · 03-04-2019, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylverlee

BM3 you can sell the license once, that's attractive.

I just did the bootmod3 stage 1 93 flash on my 535i today and what a huge difference! Literally threw me back into my seat when I went out for the first ride. Will be upgrading to stage 2 this weekend after catless dp and spark plug swap. Love how you can configure burbles to your liking. Definitely recommend it

Sylverlee · 03-04-2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtex535

I just did the bootmod3 stage 1 93 flash on my 535i today and what a huge difference! Literally threw me back into my seat when I went out for the first ride. Will be upgrading to stage 2 this weekend after catless dp and spark plug swap. Love how you can configure burbles to your liking. Definitely recommend it

Does it change the throttle response/transmission shifts at all? I know XHP released their own thing recently, but kinda pricey.

Dtex535 · 03-04-2019, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylverlee

Does it change the throttle response/transmission shifts at all? I know XHP released their own thing recently, but kinda pricey.

Yes the throttle is more responsive, bootmod3 hasn’t released any transmission software for the 535 yet. Not sure if they are at all.

gulfstream69xr7 · 03-04-2019, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John H.

I plan to go with a MP Stage 1 tune. Since they are local, I will pay them a visit. Heard good things. Will let you know how it goes.

Please do. I am very curious.

gulfstream69xr7 · 03-04-2019, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtex535

I just did the bootmod3 stage 1 93 flash on my 535i today and what a huge difference! Literally threw me back into my seat when I went out for the first ride. Will be upgrading to stage 2 this weekend after catless dp and spark plug swap. Love how you can configure burbles to your liking. Definitely recommend it

How is the car in Comfort mode? I really want to be able to back off the tune when I'm just running around town. I don't need a missile to run to the grocery store.

And what is the "burble" thing? The car currently makes a sound like that when it shifts under hard acceleration, but I can't imagine I'd want it to do that all the time.

SC300T · 03-04-2019, 06:03 PM

Xhp transmission software *IS* available for the F10 535i and xi.

Dtex535 · 03-04-2019, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gulfstream69xr7

How is the car in Comfort mode? I really want to be able to back off the tune when I'm just running around town. I don't need a missile to run to the grocery store.

And what is the "burble" thing? The car currently makes a sound like that when it shifts under hard acceleration, but I can't imagine I'd want it to do that all the time.

It all depends on how you drive, if you have a heavy foot you’ll definitely feel the torque difference. But if you’re just driving around town, it’s fine.

Dtex535 · 03-04-2019, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SC300T

Xhp transmission software *IS* available for the F10 535i and xi.

Was talking about bootmod3

jonobro · 03-05-2019, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtex535

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylverlee

BM3 you can sell the license once, that's attractive.

I just did the bootmod3 stage 1 93 flash on my 535i today and what a huge difference! Literally threw me back into my seat when I went out for the first ride. Will be upgrading to stage 2 this weekend after catless dp and spark plug swap. Love how you can configure burbles to your liking. Definitely recommend it

Why spark plug swap and to which ones ?

Dtex535 · 03-05-2019, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jonobro

Why spark plug swap and to which ones ?

I’m coming up on 60k so it’s time to swap them anyways. I went with NGK 97506 2-Step Colder Spark Plugs since I’ll be upgrading to stage 2 and adding more boost.

mike@x-ph.com · 03-06-2019, 08:10 PM

Bootmod3 offers unparalleled features and settings to users, its the most advanced tune on the market

Casebrius · 03-18-2019, 07:42 PM

Is either of these flashes "less visible" to a dealer from a tampering perspective? My '16 still has a lot of warranty left that I'd rather not void.

Surly73 · 03-18-2019, 08:26 PM

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Is either of these flashes "less visible" to a dealer from a tampering perspective? My '16 still has a lot of warranty left that I'd rather not void.

I think that both are equally visible/invisible. Both feature a full return-to-stock-and-lock functionality, which is what you must do to remain undetected.

That being said, from what I've read, if you do come in for a major powertrain warranty claim (new engine, new turbos etc...) they can still browse the performance history logs and see boost targets higher than stock etc... but "return-to-stock-and-lock" will make sure that no tamper alarms go off at the dealer.

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gulfstream69xr7 Private 30 Rep 86 Posts Drives: 535XI Join Date: May 2016 Location: Greater Philly iTrader: (0)	Flash Tunes - Mission Performance & Bootmod3 Well the 2013 535XI is finally out of warranty. I've been waiting for the warranty to run out to do anything related to tuning. So now I'm in the market for an ECU flash. I don't really want to go for a bolt on or a piggyback. I'd rather go the OBD flash route. The car is basically stock with the exception of a custom exhaust including the MPE mufflers. I don't really have any interest in replacing the downpipe, turbo, or charge pipe. I'm interested I getting some additional performance out of the car, but don't have any interest in anything more than a stage 1 tune. It's a daily driver and I'd don't need it to be a race car. I have another toy for that. I'm interested in giving it the performance that BMW should have from the factory. I also want to be able to have it drive comfortably and economically in "Comfort" mode, as that is how my wife prefers to drive the car. I have read good things about both Mission Performance Stage 1 and PTF Bootmod3. I like that they both seem to deliver smooth mid range performance across normally driven RPM ranges, and retain very good daily drivability. I'd really like to hear everyone's actual experiences with the products and the companies. 've pretty much narrowed it down to these two, and I'd like to hear what people who have actually used them think of them. Thanks!
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