Being discriminated against. Please help.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 02:16 PM

My mom got into a major accident on her way to work this morning up in Hagerstown,MD. Thankfully nothing happened to her. She does think that the Camry is totaled. Now, the thing the is that my mom passed a green light and the other guy was turning, he had a red. He turns and hits my mom from the side causing her to slide. Two of the guys friends saw the accident happen.They quickly go over to the guy and tell him that they will tell the cops that it was my moms fault and he shouldn't worry about it. If you guys didn't know, My family is Iranian. My mom wears a Hijab. I think there is some major racism going on here. Now, my mom has $180 ticket(for no reason) and I don't know about points. What can we do? Lawyer up? Can anyone help?

I hate racist people.

MCMLXXXIX · 03-05-2009, 02:19 PM

what was the ticket for? going on green???

im not sure if id quickly assume its because of the race. but if youre sure about it, then thats fucked up. overall, its fucked up

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 02:32 PM

The guy told my mom that he knows that it was his fault.

He was pulled aside by this friends afterwords and then came back and told my mom it's her fault.

Seminole · 03-05-2009, 02:33 PM

Is there a traffic camera or any other witnesses that can verify your moms story?

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Seminole

Is there a traffic camera or any other witnesses that can verify your moms story?

No one else stopped. Only the other guys friends.

MCS · 03-05-2009, 02:44 PM

what was the outcome?

i hope everyone involved was ok (including your mom)

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MCS

what was the outcome?

i hope everyone involved was ok (including your mom)

Everyone is ok thankfully. Just really pissed. Filing a false police claim is actually a crime. We're going to try and nail them on it.

Year's_End · 03-05-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

The guy told my mom that he knows that it was his fault.

He was pulled aside by this friends afterwords and then came back and told my mom it's her fault.

Where was this? Were there any witnesses? Won't the damage aid your mom's story?

I don't think you should worry, as eye-witnesses aren't the most reliable forms of evidence anyways.

Alpine · 03-05-2009, 03:04 PM

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I don't think you should worry, as eye-witnesses aren't the most reliable forms of evidence anyways.

Exactly. And I wouldn't be so quick to pull the race card on this one. If anything, you should pull the "Those guys are complete tools" card.

Hoping for the best for your mom.

synclastica_86 · 03-05-2009, 03:06 PM

Lawyer up! Sue those racist sobs!

888 · 03-05-2009, 03:06 PM

Seriously I am sorry and think these guys are assholes if what you are saying is true. But why must it be a racist thing. I am sure that the friends would back up the other driver no matter what the sex or race???

I hate it when people pull the racism card whenever things don't go their way.

Your mom is lucky she can drive in this country.

johnnymu · 03-05-2009, 03:15 PM

Something similar happen to me and my bro when we were coming home from Highschool. Some judge's daughter reverse and back her whole rear end on top of our car in middle of traffic. Somehow she got her way and was consider no one's fault. Sadly, to say two years has passed and her family has been struck with horrible luck. Youngest son passed away, daughter became a crackhead and father no longer is judge. Karma is bitch.

Year's_End · 03-05-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnymu

Something similar happen to me and my bro when we were coming home from Highschool. Some judge's daughter reverse and back her whole rear end on top of our car in middle of traffic. Somehow she got her way and was consider no one's fault. Sadly, to say two years has passed and her family has been struck with horrible luck. Youngest son passed away, daughter became a crackhead and father no longer is judge. Karma is bitch.

I hate to say this, but they had it comin'.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

Where was this? Were there any witnesses? Won't the damage aid your mom's story?

I don't think you should worry, as eye-witnesses aren't the most reliable forms of evidence anyways.

It happened in Hagerstown, MD.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 03:33 PM

We just got a call from all state. We'll see what they say.

jhv · 03-05-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnymu

Something similar happen to me and my bro when we were coming home from Highschool. Some judge's daughter reverse and back her whole rear end on top of our car in middle of traffic. Somehow she got her way and was consider no one's fault. Sadly, to say two years has passed and her family has been struck with horrible luck. Youngest son passed away, daughter became a crackhead and father no longer is judge. Karma is bitch.

talk about owned. as for the op, im sure the damage can prove who was at fault

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 03:41 PM

The problem is my mom has a 180 dollar ticket for passing a red light when she passed a green. What can we do about that?

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 888

Seriously I am sorry and think these guys are assholes if what you are saying is true. But why must it be a racist thing. I am sure that the friends would back up the other driver no matter what the sex or race???

I hate it when people pull the racism card whenever things don't go their way.

Your mom is lucky she can drive in this country.

You obviously have no knowledge of Iran. Woman have been driving there for years now. Get your facts straight, then come back to me and tell me I pulled the racism card.

I'm sure if my mom wasn't wearing her scarf, it would of gone down the same way.

I can't even say that without laughing.

I hate it when people don't know what they're talking about.

jhv · 03-05-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

The problem is my mom has a 180 dollar ticket for passing a red light when she passed a green. What can we do about that?

damn, thats a tough one. id go to the businesses around the intersection (if there any) and see if their security cameras could have seen exactly what your mom did

-=Hot|Ice=- · 03-05-2009, 04:31 PM

Thanks for all the help guys.

Joonsup · 03-05-2009, 04:40 PM

yeah i dont think those guys can be credible eye witnesses since they are his friends. If it was random motorists stopping and then telling the police that it was your mom's fault, then yeah that's pretty crazy and racism probably played a part. However I think, in my opinion, that it wasn't much about race than it was about his friends trying to back him up. However i think things will work in your favor and you will be able to get that fine voided in court. Good luck man and keep us updated

stooken · 03-05-2009, 04:51 PM

1) why would she get a $180 for running a red if the cop did not see it? there is no proof except a traffic camera. and if she did run it with a camera, she'd have her picture taken. i'm sure your mom can contest this.

2) red light green light cases usually end in a 50/50 settlement with insurance. it just becomes a he said she said ordeal. i think most traffic lights work in a specific order. if his light went red before your moms went green then there is a chance he ran the light and vice versa but i could be wrong.

in any event, both situations are worth looking into more.

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888 I'm takin' the day off. 111 Rep 339 Posts Drives: M Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Seriously I am sorry and think these guys are assholes if what you are saying is true. But why must it be a racist thing. I am sure that the friends would back up the other driver no matter what the sex or race??? I hate it when people pull the racism card whenever things don't go their way. Your mom is lucky she can drive in this country.
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johnnymu Warranty Killer 126 Rep 1,015 Posts Drives: Nike shoe Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: cincinnati, OH iTrader: (4)	Something similar happen to me and my bro when we were coming home from Highschool. Some judge's daughter reverse and back her whole rear end on top of our car in middle of traffic. Somehow she got her way and was consider no one's fault. Sadly, to say two years has passed and her family has been struck with horrible luck. Youngest son passed away, daughter became a crackhead and father no longer is judge. Karma is bitch. __________________ EUROPROJEKTZ Midwest Member 08 335i Jet Black \| too much to name....
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Joonsup Lieutenant General 322 Rep 17,316 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E30 325i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (8) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [9.50]	yeah i dont think those guys can be credible eye witnesses since they are his friends. If it was random motorists stopping and then telling the police that it was your mom's fault, then yeah that's pretty crazy and racism probably played a part. However I think, in my opinion, that it wasn't much about race than it was about his friends trying to back him up. However i think things will work in your favor and you will be able to get that fine voided in court. Good luck man and keep us updated
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stooken Brigadier General 184 Rep 4,244 Posts Drives: E70 X5 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NOR*CAL iTrader: (2)	1) why would she get a $180 for running a red if the cop did not see it? there is no proof except a traffic camera. and if she did run it with a camera, she'd have her picture taken. i'm sure your mom can contest this. 2) red light green light cases usually end in a 50/50 settlement with insurance. it just becomes a he said she said ordeal. i think most traffic lights work in a specific order. if his light went red before your moms went green then there is a chance he ran the light and vice versa but i could be wrong. in any event, both situations are worth looking into more. __________________ 2010 E92 BSM 335i \| M-Sport \| ST Coils \| Linea Corse Lemans \| Cobb AP \| BMS DCI \| Cyba Tips
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