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      06-23-2020, 03:35 PM   #1
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Video: Porsche Reinvents The Brake Rotor - No Rust, Low Dust, No Fade!

Come on BMW!

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yeah 30% more lifespan and 4 times more expensive to replace than iron..
sounds like Porsche..
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cool tech. i'd still go with ceramics for a street car though since they will last the lifetime of the vehicle in most cases.

anyone who regularly tracks (and is not a multimillionaire) will tell you to just go with steel rotors.
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Just give me those calipers!

Plus of course a decent 4 piston rear
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Typical VW group nonsense, providing an answer for a question nobody asked. Just want to shove more "innovations" down the customers throats to charge more money.
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Typical VW group nonsense, providing an answer for a question nobody asked. Just want to shove more "innovations" down the customers throats to charge more money.
And I bet you wish we still had horses instead of cars!

Innovation drives competition.
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Typical VW group nonsense, providing an answer for a question nobody asked. Just want to shove more "innovations" down the customers throats to charge more money.
actually the best part of these brakes they dont fade under repetitive hard braking.. i guess it was in this video as well.. its like a "cheap" alternative to ceramic brakes but i believe Porsche went for such a thing for making all their non ceramic brakes like this one day.. one way or another it ll get cheaper..
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Typical VW group nonsense, providing an answer for a question nobody asked. Just want to shove more "innovations" down the customers throats to charge more money.
It's an option. No one is forcing you to check the box.
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whatever, we agree to disagree. I thought that competition usually drives innovation. And yes, having "proprietary" brake rotors the aftermarket will not replicate soon is a money grab. This technology is only somewhat better than what's available (actually, it was mentioned that cheaper alternatives which work just the same exist) but it does make life a bit more difficult. Probably the only real benefit is that it helps to keep the wheels cleaner. And yes, VW Group likes to reinvent things which they then like to beta-test in production cars.
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whatever, we agree to disagree. I thought that competition usually drives innovation. And yes, having "proprietary" brake rotors the aftermarket will not replicate soon is a money grab. This technology is only somewhat better than what's available (actually, it was mentioned that cheaper alternatives which work just the same exist) but it does make life a bit more difficult. Probably the only real benefit is that it helps to keep the wheels cleaner. And yes, VW Group likes to reinvent things which they then like to beta-test in production cars.
Show us on this doll where Piëch touched you.
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Typical VW group nonsense, providing an answer for a question nobody asked. Just want to shove more "innovations" down the customers throats to charge more money.
You realize this is called "research and development", right? What they charge a premium for now to high-end customers willing to pay are what will fund continued development to eventually make it down to everyone else.
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Show us on this doll where Piëch touched you.
I'm gonna show you the place under my VW's hood where the triplesquare bit was dropped.
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Show us on this doll where Piëch touched you.
I'm gonna show you the place under my VW's hood where the triplesquare bit was dropped.
Probably right next to a stretch bolt.
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Probably right next to a stretch bolt.
There's no stretch bolt. It already has stretched out and broke off)
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Ugh.. cayennes are sooo ugly!
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Ugh.. cayennes are sooo ugly!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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I’ll take the slowest Cayenne vs any X BMW model. They are to me not only much better looking, but quality, ride and dynamics are better.
Don't get me wrong I'm not a Porsche basher.. I love the Panamera. It's just that the Cayenne looks like a picture of a Panamera that someone stretched asymmetrically.
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yeah 30% more lifespan and 4 times more expensive to replace than iron..
sounds like Porsche..
$3500 option to go with coated rotors, and yet $9000 more expensive to replace them.

My maths hurt.
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Saw this vid a few days ago,

at first i was intrigued, could this really be a game changing alternative to carbon ceramics for us non-ballers?

Answer was no
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