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      11-29-2021, 08:24 PM   #45
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This will come to the US, and the m3 wagon won't. I guess ugly sells.
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BMW is doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. Setting up to make millions/billions for their next "BMW" generation. I'm sure our grand and great grandfather's would look at the F06 M6 or F86 X6M with the same confusion, but look how great they sold and how iconic they are. They (BMW) aren't making cars for us anymore they are making cars for the future us and our children who are into the looks and styles that the new cars come with. I take my hat off to BMW for always leading the charge for innovation and technology as well as breathtaking designs no matter what our personal opinion of them is.
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This will come to the US, and the m3 wagon won't. I guess ugly sells.
It's not coming to the US - it's going to be BUILT in the US. Good, red blooded Americans are going to be blamed for this abortion!
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Hmm... Initial reaction: I'm relieved; the design is better than I anticipated based on spy photos.. I especially like the DRLs and hidden headlights. I like the taillights too. I even like the exhaust tips.. I wonder about pricing - but I'd go for this XM (concept) over the Urus or PHEV Cayenne Turbo, without a doubt... I think an all black XM would look quite sinister! So I guess I'm a fan. I wonder how true the production version will remain to this concept...
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That is hideous and ridiculous!
And, the dual badges on the back as a nod to the M1. LMAO!!!

They will probably sell loads of them...

As long as they keep making good looking, sporty coupes, I don't care what they have to sell to do it. I hope lots of people with bad taste, and money to throw away, buy many of them.
Ok so literally just the 2-series
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Expressive and cohesive designs exist too Dukec.
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Cockpit reminds me of the M1 slightly. Wonder if that was intentional
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It’s just a concept car. No need to freak out. The actual production XM will (have to) look way less crazy…
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Hmm... Initial reaction: I'm relieved; the design is better than I anticipated based on spy photos.. I especially like the DRLs and hidden headlights. I like the taillights too. I even like the exhaust tips.. I wonder about pricing - but I'd go for this XM (concept) over the Urus or PHEV Cayenne Turbo, without a doubt... I think an all black XM would look quite sinister! So I guess I'm a fan. I wonder how true the production version will remain to this concept...
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I think the concept is over-styled (if I can even say that about a concept). Production panels and hardware toning down some exaggerated areas may make it look more in line with the rest of the BMW SAV's. The interior, at least from the driver's point of view looks pretty damn awesome.
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Illuminating the grill is just idiotic
You mean you don't want to be cool like all the morons driving around with the DRL LEDs thinking their lights are on? Can't tell you the amount of idiots on the road that don't put their lights on. Worst of all, most cars have auto lights these days, why these people decide to turn off auto lights is beside me. End rant.
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Well we at least know all the renders of the new 7 series is probably wrong when it comes to the headlight design. Nice tech hiding the high and low beam behind the black housing.
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You mean you don't want to be cool like all the morons driving around with the DRL LEDs thinking their lights are on? Can't tell you the amount of idiots on the road that don't put their lights on. Worst of all, most cars have auto lights these days, why these people decide to turn off auto lights is beside me. End rant.
My biggest pet peeve. I get behind these idiots and flash my lights at them...only about 10% realize what's going on.
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Here is the good news: “Syring (BMW M's head of design) says it's possible that this powertrain could be used in other M models such as the M5.”
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The G8x is ugly, but this tops that.
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Well we at least know all the renders of the new 7 series is probably wrong when it comes to the headlight design. Nice tech hiding the high and low beam behind the black housing.
I would wait until we see the production version of either 7er or XM. Its possible they stay like this but headlights on concepts are usually some of the first aspects to be changed for production cars and the tint/black housing used on the concept model here may not pass some regulations.
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Well we at least know all the renders of the new 7 series is probably wrong when it comes to the headlight design. Nice tech hiding the high and low beam behind the black housing.
I would wait until we see the production version of either 7er or XM. Its possible they stay like this but headlights on concepts are usually some of the first aspects to be changed for production cars and the tint/black housing used on the concept model here may not pass some regulations.
Wondering if it'll be something similar to how the new Range Rover's is. Granted there's is only for the turn signal so regulations could possibly be more lenient for that.
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Here is the good news: "Syring (BMW M's head of design) says it's possible that this powertrain could be used in other M models such as the M5."
I don't think it's so much a possibility, I think they are using this as a springboard into hybrid M cars. I see the XM as being the model to test everything and anything BMW might want to use in all the other models, whether it's BMW M or just regular BMW's.
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Wondering if it'll be something similar to how the new Range Rover's is. Granted there's is only for the turn signal so regulations could possibly be more lenient for that.
Yeah the turn signals follow a different set of regulations (although they also feature some stupid rules as well). I know the new RR uses a black out panel in the rear, but I believe because of that the taillights are now on 100% of the time that the vehicle is running.
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This was the mysterious standalone M 'car' since the M1??!?!?!?

A four tonne truck??

BAHAHAHAHAHHA lmao!

The cringe ia real! Those propellor hats over at M hq need a good ol' fashioned german wake up call
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it's sad, really. it wasn't that long ago that I'd be eagerly awaiting new releases, downloading the hi-res images to admire the detail and/or use as screen backgrounds, and anticipating when I might own one.

now, I don't even want to look twice at these purposefully garish designs.
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It's... different for sure.
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It has almost none of the traditional BMW design elements; that wouldn't be a problem if any part of the new design elements was tasteful or beautiful, or at least rested easy on the eye. Just a mumbo-jumbo design that provides shock and gives boners to teenagers. Also, the interior looks like a Romanian brothel. BMW, you have lost your goddamn way.
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I’ve gone blind scrubbing my eyes in a hopeless attempt to unsee this. Is there an ongoing competition at BMW to make cars as ugly as possible without getting fired?
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