Thrust Arm Bushing Upgrade

top ramen · 11-17-2020, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Surly73

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Originally Posted by top ramen

I guess its just you and me with this upgrade at the moment in this forum. Isn't it crazy how just upgraded front bushing changes everything and reduce all the slop in the front. Would love to test the difference since you got mono and I have poly. It's definitely one of the top upgrade you must do on a F10. Thanks for the review.

I'm interested in the NVH on both options. I like things firm and connected but I'm not a 21" wheels, suspension-cranked-full-stiff kind of guy.

NVH is like stock. Haven't notice anything negative only the improvements.

Unspec · 11-22-2020, 01:14 AM

Heads up folks, the turner monoballs are on sale for 15% off right now. Both installed versions and monoball-only ones. The RWD preinstalled is at a nutty 390, but the AWD is at 535... why?!

BimmerHausPerformance · 11-22-2020, 06:49 PM

Sold!

Bmwdoubles_ · 11-22-2020, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrowBMW

Sold!

This is a worthy upgrade. The control at higher speeds is superb.

Bmwdoubles_ · 11-24-2020, 01:47 AM

Now that I can confirm reducing deflection in the thrust arm has added a huge benefit I'm curious about caliper deflection. I check that the bearing isn't going by doing the shake the wheel test. Passed of course. Then I took the wheel off and shook the rotor to see if anything was loose there and I didn't notice the caliper moved a good amount. Coincidentally I ran across these on ECS and thought I might to try this before I go to the track. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...003326ecs01~a/

Unspec · 11-24-2020, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmwdoubles_

Now that I can confirm reducing deflection in the thrust arm has added a huge benefit I'm curious about caliper deflection. I check that the bearing isn't going by doing the shake the wheel test. Passed of course. Then I took the wheel off and shook the rotor to see if anything was loose there and I didn't notice the caliper moved a good amount. Coincidentally I ran across these on ECS and thought I might to try this before I go to the track. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...003326ecs01~a/

Somehow you keep finding ways to spend money :P

Wonder if it's necessary for the rear calipers?

BimmerHausPerformance · 11-24-2020, 08:23 PM

Oh my gosh, stop already! lol. But as always... I'll wait for your feedback. It makes sense and I never even thought twice about the rubber... I guess I thought that was just part of the dust cover for the guide pins, I didn't realize that the guide pins actually RODE on that.

Let us know how they work out LOL

Unspec · 11-25-2020, 08:49 AM

I was tempted to get it, so I did more research and decided it wasn't worth it. I don't track my car, and it requires you to really keep on top of the maintenance of the bushing. You need to clean it regularly, since otherwise it'll bind up the pin. The OEM rubber is maintenance free, just needs the occasional replacement. The general consensus seems to be that the OEM BMW rubber bushings are pretty dang good.

paul223 · 11-25-2020, 08:57 AM

Bimmerworld has powerflex bushings at cheapest price currently. I think i am going to get uppper/lower arms and diff, cuz my diff bushing is torn.

top ramen · 11-25-2020, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmwdoubles_

Now that I can confirm reducing deflection in the thrust arm has added a huge benefit I'm curious about caliper deflection. I check that the bearing isn't going by doing the shake the wheel test. Passed of course. Then I took the wheel off and shook the rotor to see if anything was loose there and I didn't notice the caliper moved a good amount. Coincidentally I ran across these on ECS and thought I might to try this before I go to the track. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...003326ecs01~a/

I had those brass caliper sleeves back in the days on my e46. They were a good upgrade but like what people said its a pain in the rear. There is no dust cap at the end of the brass sleeves like the rubber stock ones so road debris get built up on the sliding pin grease very easily and you have to keep an eye out to clean and regrease them every so often.

top ramen · 11-25-2020, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by paul223

Bimmerworld has powerflex bushings at cheapest price currently. I think i am going to get uppper/lower arms and diff, cuz my diff bushing is torn.

I really want to do my rear diff bushing but worry about diff whine like the e90 guys. Once installed please do a review for us.

Unspec · 11-26-2020, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by top ramen

I had those brass caliper sleeves back in the days on my e46. They were a good upgrade but like what people said its a pain in the rear. There is no dust cap at the end of the brass sleeves like the rubber stock ones so road debris get built up on the sliding pin grease very easily and you have to keep an eye out to clean and regrease them every so often.

The one doubles posted does come with a dust cap. So might be less pain in the rear, but it's still something I'd rather just not deal with.

BimmerHausPerformance · 11-30-2020, 02:42 PM

So I just did the monoballs on the trust arms and wow, this is right up there with Coil overs and sway bars if you want more feel and control. I still need to test this out on dry roads but big difference noticed already on wet roads. I'm posing an install DIY video since I just got the bearings being the cheapskate I am. Good times.

Sylverlee · 12-01-2020, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BrowBMW

So I just did the monoballs on the trust arms and wow, this is right up there with Coil overs and sway bars if you want more feel and control. I still need to test this out on dry roads but big difference noticed already on wet roads. I'm posing an install DIY video since I just got the bearings being the cheapskate I am. Good times.

Nice can't wait for the video.

BimmerHausPerformance · 12-01-2020, 06:05 PM

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Sylverlee · 12-01-2020, 06:11 PM

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Nice, that breaker bar looked tough. Wonder if that would be tough to do with stands haha

Bmwdoubles_ · 12-02-2020, 01:27 AM

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Nice work!

Unspec · 12-02-2020, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sylverlee

Nice, that breaker bar looked tough. Wonder if that would be tough to do with stands haha

It sounds like it was just seized a bit. Tightening spec is 100nm + 90*, so it's not insanely tight. Penetrating oil + time + heat will probably help. Obviously, don't torch it if you're not replacing the whole arm :P

top ramen · 12-02-2020, 10:12 PM

Nice video and very informative. Told you guys that size 16mm thrust arm bolt was no joke. Time to go back on them mountain road and do a review video.

Unspec · 12-04-2020, 06:13 PM

It's here boys, time to somehow manage to hurt myself as I try to break that nut loose!

Bmwdoubles_ · 12-05-2020, 02:15 AM

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It's here boys, time to somehow manage to hurt myself as I try to break that nut loose!

You're gonna love them. It's one of my favorite mods I've done.

Unspec · 12-05-2020, 01:59 PM

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You're gonna love them. It's one of my favorite mods I've done.

I already love them just by looking at it. Shiny blue, me like shiny.

11-22-2020, 01:14 AM	#68
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Bmwdoubles_ Lieutenant 194 Rep 517 Posts Drives: BMW F10 535 Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (1) Garage List [0.00]	Now that I can confirm reducing deflection in the thrust arm has added a huge benefit I'm curious about caliper deflection. I check that the bearing isn't going by doing the shake the wheel test. Passed of course. Then I took the wheel off and shook the rotor to see if anything was loose there and I didn't notice the caliper moved a good amount. Coincidentally I ran across these on ECS and thought I might to try this before I go to the track. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...003326ecs01~a/ __________________ BPM Tuned, Advanced Fuel Dynamics, Paddoq Valved Exhaust, Paddoq Magnetic Paddles, EDC dampers, Dinan Springs, H&R Sway. DCT all day long. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFu...fWjCtOz49FDMlg
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Unspec Colonel 1295 Rep 2,587 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW 535xi Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: DMV iTrader: (1)	I was tempted to get it, so I did more research and decided it wasn't worth it. I don't track my car, and it requires you to really keep on top of the maintenance of the bushing. You need to clean it regularly, since otherwise it'll bind up the pin. The OEM rubber is maintenance free, just needs the occasional replacement. The general consensus seems to be that the OEM BMW rubber bushings are pretty dang good. __________________ 2015 BMW 535xi Bootmod3 Stage 2 \| ER charge pipe \| ER Catted DP \| Remus Exhaust \| Gplus FMIC \| KW V3 \| Turner Monoball thrust arm bushings \| Wallet regrets ISTA VM Setup/Tutorial
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