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      09-05-2021, 02:59 PM   #287
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Max is having no party, just going home.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/93232...ink=inarticle2
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I believed Max would be world champ for a few years now. If not this year, it will be soon. And it's going to be hard to dethrone him. Young man is just unreal. There's a Max sim racing video I always think about. Max always finds time somewhere, outside the ideal line. Just unreal.

Such a bummer to not see Lando near top. My son and I were super bummed about Lando. He's definitely taking it out on all the kids at our indoor kart track today lol
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Loved the race! Loved the pageantry! Loved the fans! Loved the result! LOVED the track!
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Was such a great track, good history and those banked turns were EPIC
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The world 'is Orange !

MAX hasn't fans ..I never heard such a BS before ...
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The world 'is Orange !

MAX hasn't fans ..I never heard such a BS before ...
Maybe they have ear plugs still in there
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Bingo !

So I have been thinking about this overtake from Max on BOT.
Obviously Max was faster because of DRS and new tyres, but I still think BOT let him overtake quite easily (imho BOT also isnt the best driver under pressure).

I think he LET Max overtake quite easy. (so on purpose). He was the race leader so he was allowed to defend.

Also BOT getting the fastest lap and forcing HAM to come in and forcing HAM to perform that last lap to win the last lap back was a really strange move imho, but that is also in line with that easy pass from Max.

It's pretty sure for some weeks now that BOT will not be driving for MERC next year.
And these events let me to believe that he will not be driving for williams or any other MERC powered car, and that the rumours are true that he'll sign with Alfa Romeo.

So how does BOT behaviour from this race fall in place with him signing with alfa romeo? Why is he helping? Max?
Alphatauri is RBR sisterteam, NOT Alfa romeo!

But there is another link I think.

Can anyone guess what I'm thinking about?
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So I have been thinking about this overtake from Max on BOT.
Obviously Max was faster because of DRS and new tyres, but I still think BOT let him overtake quite easily (imho BOT also isnt the best driver under pressure).

I think he LET Max overtake quite easy. (so on purpose). He was the race leader so he was allowed to defend.

Also BOT getting the fastest lap and forcing HAM to come in and forcing HAM to perform that last lap to win the last lap back was a really strange move imho, but that is also in line with that easy pass from Max.

It's pretty sure for some weeks now that BOT will not be driving for MERC next year.
And these events let me to believe that he will not be driving for williams or any other MERC powered car, and that the rumours are true that he'll sign with Alfa Romeo.

So how does BOT behaviour from this race fall in place with him signing with alfa romeo? Why is he helping? Max?
Alphatauri is RBR sisterteam, NOT Alfa romeo!

But there is another link I think.

Can anyone guess what I'm thinking about?
• BOT's tyres were completely shot
• MAX performed just a fly by with DRS . BOT had zero chance
• BOT said : At that moment I wasn't aware I ran the fastest lap
• HAM wants only a team mate who he can beat and that's BOT

• If BOT had made a dirty trick while MAX overtook him , BOT wouldn't leave Zandvoort alive today !
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^ He'd be tied and fried and he knew it,he's caused enough trouble for RB with his 'orders' from previous.
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Max took the fastest pit stop at Zandvoort and also spelt a warning to RB before the race.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/93250...-run-away.html
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So my theory is that BOT is going to Alfa Romeo next year.
That is currently a Ferrari affiliated team.

And Red Bull races with Ferrari in DTM (and AlphaTauri is the other team in DTM that races with Ferrari).

So I think that there are some connections there.

Of course there is the rumour that next year Alfa Romeo is racing with Mercedes engines because maybe BOT and Nyck de Vries (Merc. formula E driver) is going to drive there....
So we'll see next year if my theory has a shot or not (if Alfaromeo has Mercedes engines next year obviously my theory is not true)


Especially BOT taking the fastest lap from HAM and explicitly ignoring team orders was, for BOT, a strange and bold move, no matter knowing or not knowing HAM to come in.
HAM managed to take back that fastest lap in the last lap of the race but that was a big risk. He could have gotten into traffic etc.
At that point it was already sure that both VER and PER would not be able to get the fastest lap from HAM, so BOT willingly put one point from HAM at risk.
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So my theory is that BOT is going to Alfa Romeo next year.
That is currently a Ferrari affiliated team.

And Red Bull races with Ferrari in DTM (and AlphaTauri is the other team in DTM that races with Ferrari).

So I think that there are some connections there.

Of course there is the rumour that next year Alfa Romeo is racing with Mercedes engines because maybe BOT and Nyck de Vries (Merc. formula E driver) is going to drive there....
So we'll see next year if my theory has a shot or not (if Alfaromeo has Mercedes engines next year obviously my theory is not true)


Especially BOT taking the fastest lap from HAM and explicitly ignoring team orders was, for BOT, a strange and bold move, no matter knowing or not knowing HAM to come in.
HAM managed to take back that fastest lap in the last lap of the race but that was a big risk. He could have gotten into traffic etc.
At that point it was already sure that both VER and PER would not be able to get the fastest lap from HAM, so BOT willingly put one point from HAM at risk.
According to BOT today => https://nl.motorsport.com/f1/news/bo...ronde/6661160/
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So my theory is that BOT is going to Alfa Romeo next year.
That is currently a Ferrari affiliated team.

And Red Bull races with Ferrari in DTM (and AlphaTauri is the other team in DTM that races with Ferrari).

So I think that there are some connections there.

Of course there is the rumour that next year Alfa Romeo is racing with Mercedes engines because maybe BOT and Nyck de Vries (Merc. formula E driver) is going to drive there....
So we'll see next year if my theory has a shot or not (if Alfaromeo has Mercedes engines next year obviously my theory is not true)


Especially BOT taking the fastest lap from HAM and explicitly ignoring team orders was, for BOT, a strange and bold move, no matter knowing or not knowing HAM to come in.
HAM managed to take back that fastest lap in the last lap of the race but that was a big risk. He could have gotten into traffic etc.
At that point it was already sure that both VER and PER would not be able to get the fastest lap from HAM, so BOT willingly put one point from HAM at risk.
To quote you “you are not qualified to speak about what a F1 driver is thinking”

As MPower stated, shot tyres, MAX had DRS…and to add, BOT doesn’t break the rules and weave side to side as someone is trying to pass him…

Anyways

Great race by MAX and RB today. Completely outclassed MERC.
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So glad for the fans Max won. I was scared for Sir Lewis’ safety if he bumped him off in turn 1 haha.

Like I thought though, boring boring race. Not a good circuit for F1 at all.
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To quote you “you are not qualified to speak about what a F1 driver is thinking”
That is why I started my post with the words "so my theory is..."
It seems you missed that

It means it's also open for debate

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So I have been thinking about this overtake from Max on BOT.
Obviously Max was faster because of DRS and new tyres, but I still think BOT let him overtake quite easily (imho BOT also isnt the best driver under pressure).

I think he LET Max overtake quite easy. (so on purpose). He was the race leader so he was allowed to defend.

Also BOT getting the fastest lap and forcing HAM to come in and forcing HAM to perform that last lap to win the last lap back was a really strange move imho, but that is also in line with that easy pass from Max.

It's pretty sure for some weeks now that BOT will not be driving for MERC next year.
And these events let me to believe that he will not be driving for williams or any other MERC powered car, and that the rumours are true that he'll sign with Alfa Romeo.

So how does BOT behaviour from this race fall in place with him signing with alfa romeo? Why is he helping? Max?
Alphatauri is RBR sisterteam, NOT Alfa romeo!

But there is another link I think.

Can anyone guess what I'm thinking about?
In the post race press conference Max stated that Bottas is a respectful driver and had no concerns about passing him. Bottas seemed to appreciate the compliment, Hammy didn’t.

Anyone else noticed how Hammy uses the term “they” to reference his own team. Provides real insight about how he operates and views the team. I wonder if Merc team members are strictly instructed that they are not permitted to ever assign causation to Hammy despite how obvious it may be, in stark contrast to the RBR environment.

Merc did indeed drop the ball, but why call out his own team and reference them as “they”. He is a strange bloke.

Max’s reaction to Hammy saying the RBR car is so strong.
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The world 'is Orange !

MAX hasn't fans ..I never heard such a BS before ...


Despite this, he is still relatively low key and said he was “satisfied”.

The dude seems relatively grounded and focused.
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So glad for the fans Max won. I was scared for Sir Lewis’ safety if he bumped him off in turn 1 haha.

Like I thought though, boring boring race. Not a good circuit for F1 at all.
^This, congrats to Max but easily the most boring race of the year.

Track is cool looking and all but definitely not suited for a modern F1 race anymore.
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Merc did indeed drop the ball, but why call out his own team and reference them as “they”. He is a strange bloke.
I often have the feeling that HAM only has a connection with Toto and that the rest of the team is pretty non existent in his eyes.
Sometimes I think that HAM is also very quick to blame the MERC team when things dont go 100%
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I often have the feeling that HAM only has a connection with Toto and that the rest of the team is pretty non existent in his eyes.
Sometimes I think that HAM is also very quick to blame the MERC team when things dont go 100%
Likely right, Toto and LuLu are cut from the same cloth.
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^This, congrats to Max but easily the most boring race of the year.

Track is cool looking and all but definitely not suited for a modern F1 race anymore.
Lack luster coverage, the midfield was enjoyable to watch which unfortunately you can only see in the extended highlights after the race.

Alonso is a beast! Vettel and Kimi need to get whatever Alonso is taking. The guy is driving the wheels off the Alpine.
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