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      05-01-2019, 02:39 PM   #23
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As of 2018 it looks like BMW had about 2.3% of the world car market share, McLaren was less than 0.4%, not even on the chart that I found. I'm not sure this is a solid argument you're trying to make here.
Not sure where I saw .5%...some website, but thanks for the update

anyhow, 2.3% is tiny.
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      05-01-2019, 02:46 PM   #24
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As of 2018 it looks like BMW had about 2.3% of the world car market share, McLaren was less than 0.4%, not even on the chart that I found. I'm not sure this is a solid argument you're trying to make here.
Agreed, then Ferrari shouldn't be racing either if it is by market share metrics.
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      05-01-2019, 02:48 PM   #25
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Agreed, then Ferrari shouldn't be racing either if it is by market share metrics.
I was going to say that, but Ferrari has an unfair amount of money coming in because of their legacy status within the sport.
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I was going to say that, but Ferrari has an unfair amount of money coming in because of their legacy status within the sport.
X2, they get paid far more than any other team so the financial decision is easier for them.
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      05-09-2019, 07:23 AM   #27
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0.0000000000000% chance BMW returns to F1 in the foreseeable future.

Enjoy your P85 videos on youtube
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      05-09-2019, 11:40 PM   #28
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Bring BMW back to F1! They were fun to watch
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I was going to say that, but Ferrari has an unfair amount of money coming in because of their legacy status within the sport.
Ferrari and McLearn sell street cars so they can finance F1, it's always been their business model.

Having said that I think it would be interesting to see BMW return and I'd like to see Porsche jump in as well. F1 could use a bit of a shake up.
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      05-10-2019, 07:33 PM   #30
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X2, strange that people post that they are clueless about something that doesn't require you to like it to know it is out there. I don't watch Nascar but I also don't act surprised when I hear that people go to the races.
Fact is F1 viewership has been in decline for at least the past decade. I've been watching F1 since the late 90s, and we have had a race in my country since 1999 and we ended it in 2017 due to decreasing viewers. Even Singapore is seeing decreased attendees. Your US market is new to F1 and you're still excited but the reality is that the rest of the world has been losing interest in F1 for many years now. Why do you think Bernie sold F1 to Liberty Media? And now Liberty wants to sell it.

Strange that people post something they are clueless about lol
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X2, strange that people post that they are clueless about something that doesn't require you to like it to know it is out there. I don't watch Nascar but I also don't act surprised when I hear that people go to the races.
Fact is F1 viewership has been in decline for at least the past decade. I've been watching F1 since the late 90s, and we have had a race in my country since 1999 and we ended it in 2017 due to decreasing viewers. Even Singapore is seeing decreased attendees. Your US market is new to F1 and you're still excited but the reality is that the rest of the world has been losing interest in F1 for many years now. Why do you think Bernie sold F1 to Liberty Media? And now Liberty wants to sell it.

Strange that people post something they are clueless about lol
It's finally shifting before it was just out farts racing except for Schumacher.

With drivers like Hamilton,Vottas, Vettel and Verstappen they bring excitement to the sport. They are active social media users and have young crowds interesting in viewing F1.

Times are changing. It's coming
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As of 2018 it looks like BMW had about 2.3% of the world car market share, McLaren was less than 0.4%, not even on the chart that I found. I'm not sure this is a solid argument you're trying to make here.
yeah but McLaren is in a class that sells cars less than 1% of all car sales.. so it doesnt look that bad from that side i guess..
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0.0000000000000% chance BMW returns to F1 in the foreseeable future.

Enjoy your P85 videos on youtube

What about electric F1?
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What about electric F1?
They're already in FE.
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I'm cool with DTM and GTE tbh

I'd rather see McLaren stop being a dog turd in F1.... What a shame.
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Would love to see BMW return to F1 as well.

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They're in Formula E, which is what they see as the future of automotive racing. I love Formula 1, but there needs to be more parity. I, for one, am sick of watching Hamilton and Mercedes win every race.
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F1 isn't compétitive. Jens isn't allowed to race without electricity Involved either.

Rumors were going around Rahal is trying to get BMW into INDYCAR. Maybe they will want a ttV6 for the next M5 and go this route.

They also have interest in DPi hybrid.

I think F1 is just to expensive to justify the low chance of success. The formula sucks and most likely they'd get mocked like Honda.

Id rather they just commit to WEC
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      05-24-2019, 03:18 PM   #39
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Just going to update my response now that bmw killed WEC. F1 isn't going to happen for sure now. BMW thinks small regional racing series are better than big international ones.

F1 hosts most races in poor countries that pay big bucks to have the races. BMW sells sports cars in Europe and the US. DTM IMSA make sense and formula e for electrics.

INDYCAR makes more sense as well as it's got a match for US and somewhat euro exposure.
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After JPM and Ralf Schumacher consistently lost the championship in the best car, I wouldn't be eager to come back to Formula 1 either. Just looking at Toyota's F1 history again is a good reminder that having even the biggest budgets doesn't mean success.
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