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      02-16-2021, 07:28 PM   #23
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      02-16-2021, 11:05 PM   #24
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Between this steering wheel and the f steering wheel there is no difference they both have the steeringcluster with the same optioncodes. The newest steering wheel has other optioncodes so thats why that one didnt work for sure. Also the m5 witch is a F90 is a F series with this steer and there it works.

This one has the same buttons, same optioncodes so how can the signal be different. I allready found a couple of sites where they say with this type of steer is plug and play. But there is nothing to be found on what to do. HAHAHA
M5 is a F series sure, but only in model designation. It shares parts with the G series and is on the CLAR platform.

Just to shed light on how much fuckery BMW does with steering wheels: The F10 pre-LCI paddle shifters put out different resistance values compared to the F10 LCI paddle shifters, rendering the paddles incompatible between the two cars. And that's for a facelift of the same generation. You really expect cross-generational buttons to share the same signal values? Pffft quit clowning
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Have you tried to use your steering wheel harness with modules on the new steering wheel?
If you want to do that, you would have to change the buttons to and thats going to be difficult
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If you want to do that, you would have to change the buttons to and thats going to be difficult
Isnt the wiring, connectors and pinout the same? I will look at the same project for my i3S, but waiting for some parts.
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Isnt the wiring, connectors and pinout the same? I will look at the same project for my i3S, but waiting for some parts.
Yes wiring and connector are the same, the differences are the vibro/heating module and touch module (traffic jam assist) and the biggest problem is that the buttons send out a different signal why nothing works.
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Yes wiring and connector are the same, the differences are the vibro/heating module and touch module (traffic jam assist) and the biggest problem is that the buttons send out a different signal why nothing works.
Ok, so if you use the F-series steering column ECU (the little black box in the steering wheel), it should work in my opinion (?).
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Ok, so if you use the F-series steering column ECU (the little black box in the steering wheel), it should work in my opinion (?).
No, the button themselves are the ones sending out the signals, the box just interprets the signals. It's not a straight on off signal.
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Ok, so if you use the F-series steering column ECU (the little black box in the steering wheel), it should work in my opinion (?).
the little black box has nothing to do with the steeringwheel buttons. The box is the ecu for steer heating and vibro function and if you have tja you have an ecu for the touch function in the steering wheel to.

Its like Unspec says the electric boards inside the buttons need to change so the send the same signal as an f series.

Achtually the only way to get this to work is internal the steering wheel has to be like an f and just the exterior is g.
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The steering wheel IS on the WRONG SIDE!!!
Actually it is on the right side.

Which is the wrong side. As left side is the right side.

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Just to shed light on how much fuckery BMW does with steering wheels: The F10 pre-LCI paddle shifters put out different resistance values compared to the F10 LCI paddle shifters, rendering the paddles incompatible between the two cars. ....
I found out the hard way, although for a very different project (namely fitting shift paddles in an E36 M3 SMG).

Had the paddles (which match the e36 M3 stock shifter perfectly) only to find out they were not simple make/break contact paddles, but working with different resistance. Really!?

Well long story short, a friend of mine who can work with microelectronics, converted the little pcb's into on/off contacts and I had working paddles.
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