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      06-03-2021, 08:57 AM   #1
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G30 iDrive Touch Controller

My iDrive controller seems to finally be suffering from the stuck syndrome that seems to be attributed to the broken internal plastic ring. New one costs the same as a used G30 controller. I'm leaning toward the updated G30 version assuming design flaw has been fixed in new model, and to be ready for NBT Evo upgrade.

Anyone know from experience if the G30 version is fully compatible? Thx.
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My iDrive controller seems to finally be suffering from the stuck syndrome that seems to be attributed to the broken internal plastic ring. New one costs the same as a used G30 controller. I'm leaning toward the updated G30 version assuming design flaw has been fixed in new model, and to be ready for NBT Evo upgrade.

Anyone know from experience if the G30 version is fully compatible? Thx.
G30 iDrive controller won't work on NBT unit. It will only fit on EVO. If you get it to work, buttons are not labeled properly for you
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Thank you. Ok, supposedly one is installing an NBT Evo ID5/6, a) would the buttons on the current F10 controller be out of wack, and b) would the G30 controller then work without issue?


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G30 iDrive controller won't work on NBT unit. It will only fit on EVO. If you get it to work, buttons are not labeled properly for you
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Thank you. Ok, supposedly one is installing an NBT Evo ID5/6, a) would the buttons on the current F10 controller be out of wack, and b) would the G30 controller then work without issue?


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G30 iDrive controller won't work on NBT unit. It will only fit on EVO. If you get it to work, buttons are not labeled properly for you
G30 controller will work properly with any NBT Evo. The F10 controller shortcut buttons will be mislabeled. If that's not a problem to you then it will work as well
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Ok def. going with the G30 then cause NBT Evo is arriving next week.

Do you know if the controllers are all the same? All the part numbers for the ceramic version come up as discontinued in RealOEM. Strange.

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G30 controller will work properly with any NBT Evo. The F10 controller shortcut buttons will be mislabeled. If that's not a problem to you then it will work as well
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Ok def. going with the G30 then cause NBT Evo is arriving next week.

Do you know if the controllers are all the same? All the part numbers for the ceramic version come up as discontinued in RealOEM. Strange.

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G30 controller will work properly with any NBT Evo. The F10 controller shortcut buttons will be mislabeled. If that's not a problem to you then it will work as well
Yes, they are all the same. They all will work. It may give you a fault code that it is the wrong variant if the vehicle of the donor head unit doesn't offer ceramic controls. That code only shows up when you run a diagnostic software. For example, a 1-4 series doesn't offer ceramic controls so if you put in the idrive control from a 5-7 series, it will have that error but it won't do any harm. It will still work. You will only see the fault code when you run ista, bimmercode, etc.
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I call live with fault codes that I know aren't serious. My car currently has ceramic controls but I have no clue if the donor vehicle where the NBT Evo HU came from does. As long as it functions, I'm good.


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Yes, they are all the same. They all will work. It may give you a fault code that it is the wrong variant if the vehicle of the donor head unit doesn't offer ceramic controls. That code only shows up when you run a diagnostic software. For example, a 1-4 series doesn't offer ceramic controls so if you put in the idrive control from a 5-7 series, it will have that error but it won't do any harm. It will still work. You will only see the fault code when you run ista, bimmercode, etc.
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Confirmed over the weekend with the shop that sold me my Evo HU and another reputable BMW retrofit shop that the G30 is not compatible with F10 as it uses an updated CAN communication bus. Bummer.

Exploring other options.
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Confirmed over the weekend with the shop that sold me my Evo HU and another reputable BMW retrofit shop that the G30 is not compatible with F10 as it uses an updated CAN communication bus. Bummer.

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Maybe look for a flat controller off a F series? I believe some of the later model X cars had them.
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Good call. Just ordered an updated Fxx controller (NBT Evo). The ceramic ones were only available on select models and are supposedly near impossible to find used because everyone doing NBT > Evo is after them. It'a gonna look off, but I can live with it.

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