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      05-31-2018, 05:51 AM   #1
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Due for rear brake change $400 Indy or do myself?

So my rear brakes are due here shortly and I always thought because of the electronic e-brake control I was out of luck with the Dealer having to do this. after watching quite a few YouTube videos tell me I understand this correctly but it seems like this can be bypass without using a computer to retract the piston by disassembling the motor and than using a T45 torx and retract the piston back in replace using a caliper retracting clamp am I correct on this could I can do this myself if that's the case!



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      05-31-2018, 08:12 AM   #2
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$400 from an Indy sounds like a great deal depending on quality of parts used. Our GT was $1100 for rear rotors and pads from a BMW dealer that is known to be almost reasonable. (I think the GT may have bigger brakes.)
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For the rears I would just change out the pads only... it's not that hard
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Super easy and no need to spend that much. Find the best parts (pads/Rotors) and do it yourself. Unless you don't have the time..in which case, $400 including parts and labor sounds ok.
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$400 from an Indy sounds like a great deal depending on quality of parts used. Our GT was $1100 for rear rotors and pads from a BMW dealer that is known to be almost reasonable. (I think the GT may have bigger brakes.)
I do believe the GT has bigger brakes but that's crazy how much just for the rears

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For the rears I would just change out the pads only... it's not that hard
that maybe an option as I wouldn't have to remove the ebrake assembly if I do just the pads. i'll see how the rotors feel as I've done brakes on all my vehicles...just not the BMW

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Super easy and no need to spend that much. Find the best parts (pads/Rotors) and do it yourself. Unless you don't have the time..in which case, $400 including parts and labor sounds ok.
I'll have to compare prices I find online. I like doing things myself but if there's not much of a savings I might as well pay someone to do it
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      05-31-2018, 11:35 PM   #6
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For the rears I would just change out the pads only... it's not that hard
that maybe an option as I wouldn't have to remove the ebrake assembly if I do just the pads. i'll see how the rotors feel as I've done brakes on all my vehicles...just not the BMW
It won't help.

The electric motor for the e-brake adjusts for wear on the rotors and the pads. This means you wan't be able to fit the caliper over the new brake pads since you can't push the piston back without retract the parking brake assembly with the torx bit.
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      06-01-2018, 06:16 AM   #7
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It won't help.

The electric motor for the e-brake adjusts for wear on the rotors and the pads. This means you wan't be able to fit the caliper over the new brake pads since you can't push the piston back without retract the parking brake assembly with the torx bit.
you are correct on that!
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BTW, removing the motor and retracting the piston using a hand or power tool is very easy. Only thing to remember is to plug the connector to the motor back in.

I hear you about the labor though, it may take you about an hour or hour and half max 2 hrs but if labor is included and they are using close to OEM parts, might just let a trusted indy handle it. If its someone you haven't dealt with before, with the car as well put together as yours, you might want to give it a personal touch

(BTW, I'd recommend EBC red stuff or Yellow Stuff for pads and rotors either OEM or Zimmerman.. )
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      06-01-2018, 07:51 PM   #9
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Just leave the parking brake off when you shut down your car so the brake is already retracted. Just make sure no one touches the parking brake switch in the cabin or the computer will freak out. I replaced my rears a year ago and it real easy.

If you don't already have a brake kit rent one from one of the auto parts stores to get the threaded press to force the brake piston back into the caliper. After that its a breeze.
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      06-01-2018, 09:31 PM   #10
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How about the fronts? Anything special i need to know for that or is it pretty straight forward
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      06-02-2018, 02:40 AM   #11
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Fronts are easier but the only tricky bit is the clip that needs to be pushed back into place that covers the brake pad and holds the movable bracket in alignment. There is a trick to it on YouTube.
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Rear brakes aren't that complicated. I did a full rebuild of my rear calipers a few weeks ago when I did a 550i rear brake swap to my 535 xdrive. Just unplug and remove the motor, its two torx screws and its all sealed so fluid wont leak out and just use the torx bit to screw the piston in. I've attached a picture of what inside of the mechanism looks like.



**The picture is of the inside of the caliper where the actual piston sits. You will be working on the backside where the motor attaches. This picture is just to show what happens inside when you move the main torx screw, it slides the piston in or out depending on which way you move it, the motor does the same thing when its attached.**
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Rear brakes aren't that complicated. I did a full rebuild of my rear calipers a few weeks ago when I did a 550i rear brake swap to my 535 xdrive. Just unplug and remove the motor, its two torx screws and its all sealed so fluid wont leak out and just use the torx bit to screw the piston in. I've attached a picture of what inside of the mechanism looks like.



**The picture is of the inside of the caliper where the actual piston sits. You will be working on the backside where the motor attaches. This picture is just to show what happens inside when you move the main torx screw, it slides the piston in or out depending on which way you move it, the motor does the same thing when its attached.**
thanks for all the info on that! pictures always helps!
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Fronts are easier but the only tricky bit is the clip that needs to be pushed back into place that covers the brake pad and holds the movable bracket in alignment. There is a trick to it on YouTube.
do you have the YouTube clip?
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As others have said, it's not a difficult job. I just did my rear and front brakes this week. Dealer wanted over 7 hundred for just the rear pads and rotors. I bought Power Stop, drilled and slotted, front and rear rotors and pads for $430 from Jegs. The new rotors look great behind the aftermarket wheels.

The rear electronic parking brake is not hard at all. Remove the wheel, pop off the electronic connection near the top of the rotor, remove the two caliper pins holding the caliper to the caliper bracket. Once the caliper is removed from the caliper bracket, remove the parking brake assembly from the caliper using a torx bit (2 screws). After you remove the torx screws, just firmly pull the assembly off the caliper. Once removed, use a hex allen wrench to screw the parking brake piston back into the housing (you want to turn the allen wrench clockwise, yes clockwise). You'll feel it bottom out when you've got it seated. No need to get aggressive with over doing it. Not something you want to make tight. Once you do that, then just put it back on the caliper and put your 2 torx screws back in. Then just push your caliper piston in while you're there using a c-clamp or piston compression tool. Replace your pads as normal, replace your wear sensor ($8 on Amazon) on the drivers side only. The sensor was the last thing I attached....had the pads in, the caliper reattached to the caliper bracket and then just plugged the sensor in from the back opening of the caliper. Just push it in the open slot on the brake pad.

Very easy process. Like I said, I just replaced my front and rear rotors and pads this week. Reach out if you have any questions. Happy to help.
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Here's a pic of the front and rear new rotors:
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Looks great!

I assume it's 1-piece rotors as most aftermarket?

Not the 2-piece design with aluminium hat as the OEM rotors.
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That's correct
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How would one know which front rotor one would have without measuring? I've seen something similar on a couple of sites.

535i owners please check the size of your rotor before ordering.
This rotor is 330mm x 20mm. If you have the 343mm x 24mm disc you need...


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