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      01-28-2016, 10:59 AM   #133
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Usually you need to replace brake pads more often than rotor and they don't have to be replaced at the same time - About 2-3 sets of pad to a set of rotor.

With RB two piece rotors you only have to replace the rotor ring (retain the use of rotor hat) as oppose to the whole rotor assembly like OE because these OE rotors the friction rings and rotor hat are casted together and wear out rings are not replaceable.

Our kit price will run around $6,500+/- and with potential GB it will be about the same cost as the retrofit components that people are finding from dealers and other sources.
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      01-28-2016, 11:11 AM   #134
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AWESOME! do you guys have a ball park figure of what a complete package will run? also, you mentioned above...everytime it's time for brake pad replacement you're saying the whole rotor assembly would need to be replaced?
BMW maintenance from dealership do not change rotors when replacing pads. They only do the pads. IF the rotors are damaged, BMW does not CUT the rotors (we are talking the OEM non M5 models). So, in any circumstance, your rotors will need to be replaced if there is damage or warping.

The advantage of the Brembo setup (which is what the M5 brakes are), is that the rotors are Cross drilled which alleviates heat build up in the rotors and therefore reduce the chance of warping when brakes are used for heavy braking.

So, no matter what you have or choose, Rotor replacement is necessary as cutting is not approved by BMW engineers.
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      01-28-2016, 11:16 AM   #135
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Usually you need to replace brake pads more often than rotor and they don't have to be replaced at the same time - About 2-3 sets of pad to a set of rotor.

With RB two piece rotors you only have to replace the rotor ring (retain the use of rotor hat) as oppose to the whole rotor assembly like OE because these OE rotors the friction rings and rotor hat are casted together and wear out rings are not replaceable.

Our kit price will run around $6,500+/- and with potential GB it will be about the same cost as the retrofit components that people are finding from dealers and other sources.
are we talking front/rear for $6500? and you're talking your brand not actually an M5 brake kit correct? got any pictures of your products?
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      01-28-2016, 01:24 PM   #136
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That's correct. $6,500 is our estimated package price for the car kit with RB 6 pot front and 4 pot rear calipers.
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      02-09-2016, 02:52 AM   #137
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so back to m5 brakes it will take $5400 front + rear, I was told the m5 rear will not affect the edc module?
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      02-09-2016, 05:34 AM   #138
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4650 TOTAL with oem parts and brake adapters are only 440 shipped from RUSSIA included in that price. The Question is... Will the 550 master cylinder work with m5 brakes...

Different part number, but the m5 cylinder is used on 640, 650, m5 and other models just not 550. Is this a fitment issue on firewall or a different fluid capacity in reservoir. Still researching it.

Www.getbmwparts.com has all the parts.
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      02-27-2016, 11:05 AM   #139
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I have a thread on this. Brackets are 440.00 from Russia (shipped) and I have the complete m5 brembo kit purchased with 100 miles on it. Same brake part numbers up to 2015 F10 M5 model year as well for used parts if you are looking to save money further.

Getting calipers clear coat painted as the factory oem finish chips very easily due to clearance of rotors to wheel and rocks get in there and ruin the finish. You will need 20 inch rims to clear the calipers.

Watch my thread for diy pics, all part numbers listed from www.getbmwparts.com and I have the guy in Russia (2 weeks for delivery) listed in my thread. Once I have everything painted, I will install and post install instructions and 100-0 times for braking (track of course). Also have the torque values in custom bracket.

I Cross referenced the master cylinder as well and it appears the m5 and 5 series have interchangeable part number for master cylinder.

Contacted brembo engineer directly and posted the part numbers for all their brake systems. They don't make an "official" retrofit kit for the non M 5 series so it leads me to think BMW uses a standard brembo brake on their m5 which is adaptable to the non M via the use of bracket adapters.

This seems to be a common enough mod in Europe and Asia that people are mass producing the front and rear brackets for the retrofit. Confidence Is high that this is a bolt on mod that will save about 5 grand on bigger brake kits sold online.

The brake pad on the front I are almost triple the size of the stock non M brake pad which means longer life and better braking.
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      04-16-2016, 09:19 PM   #140
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I just purchased a pair for my 550ix F07 http://www.ebay.com/itm/252310029763...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

My question is since my rear rotors are 370x24mm and the F10 M5 rear rotors are 396x24mm so do I need a similar rear brake bracket as well?

Or should I use the E60 M5 rear rotor which is 370x24mm and keep my calipers (and paint them) but I believe the rotors wont entirely match the front F10 M5 rotors, right?

Any options in keeping my rear caliper because of the electronic parking brake with M5 drilled rotor?
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      04-17-2016, 11:54 AM   #141
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That is a good question. From what I gave researcehed you can do either way. If you research brembo retrofit kits and other brake retrofits, you can see what they use. I would think you could just buy the cross drilled rotors for your existing calipers, but a larger rotor and xalioer will give more surface area to dissipate the heat. Also keep in mind the m5 calipers will need adapter brackets, 400 for both sets. I have the Russian gentleman listed who fabricated these or you can go in us for double the price.

I Am still waiting for my calipers go be painted, which is frustrating, and then I will be the test case for braking system.


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      04-17-2016, 10:44 PM   #142
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WhatS interesting is it seems that the for our F10 crowd there was no need for a rear brake bracket so does that mean there also is no need for a rear brake bracket for my F07?

I found that the M4 rear rotors are 370x24mm so they'd would be the best option for my F07 ( which are also 370x24mm) to keep the original calipers in the rear (and paint it to match the fronts).
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      04-17-2016, 11:00 PM   #143
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All I can say is bmw in general does everything modular and regularly uses different parts on different cars. Bmw prides itself on taking any bmw and building it with any option setup you want. Yes you can purchase packages to save money, but the cars themselves are designed to incorporate any option into them based on request of customer. This is why we can code our cars with other models features, this is why any option on a bmw can be retrofitted to your car. I have personally installed surround view and side view and working on acquiring the last pieces of night vision (this requires camera and ecu from donor car). Then of course I am doing the m5 brake retrofit.

The reason I am doing the front and rear calipers is to mimic the brake handling characteristics to the letter as designed by the engineers. I think you can get away with just the front rotors and calipers and then do only the rear rotors, and probably not notice any major change, but some engineer did that rear caliper for a reason. I identified that the master cylinder is cross compatible with m5 so we know the fluid capacity is the same and thus should have the same braking hydraulics.

It could be that the engineers were accounting for a heavier m5 for the v10 motor and other performance parts, or it could be they did it for all around brake balance, unless we were able to speak to a bmw brake engineer, no one knows for sure.

I do know from my research that most people in Europe and Asia do the 4 caliper switch and my bmw parts guys recommended it as well. Nothing is guaranteed when making mods like this.

Make sure you bleed properly, which includes keeping the brake peddle depressed during entire calipers install process. Make sure you torque everything to specs. And take the locally and allow for brake failure after you do the work. You never know.

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      04-17-2016, 11:03 PM   #144
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I just purchased a pair for my 550ix F07 http://www.ebay.com/itm/252310029763...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

My question is since my rear rotors are 370x24mm and the F10 M5 rear rotors are 396x24mm so do I need a similar rear brake bracket as well?

Or should I use the E60 M5 rear rotor which is 370x24mm and keep my calipers (and paint them) but I believe the rotors wont entirely match the front F10 M5 rotors, right?

Any options in keeping my rear caliper because of the electronic parking brake with M5 drilled rotor?
Not bad, my Russian guy only charges 200, but you have the assurance of eBay on this purchase
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      11-28-2016, 07:13 AM   #145
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Hello everybody

we still produce and sell the brakepad caliper adapters.
look at adapters







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also we have another adapters for other cars
https://www.drive2.ru/o/tro-nik


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email: tronikpart@gmail.com

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      07-31-2017, 01:39 AM   #146
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We sell adapters for mounting the brake caliper brake system of the BMW M5 F10 on any BMW F10.

These front adapters allow you to set the 6-piston Brembo brake caliper and the brake disk 400 * 36 cars to the front axle.
These rear adapters allow you to use your brake caliper(OEM 34 21 6 793 053, 34 21 6 793 054, 34 21 6 793 047, 34 21 6 793 048) and the brake disk 396 * 24 from M5 on the front axle.
Why we choose this decision? Because many people have this rear caliper in a stock in their cars, and they should not to buy rear calipers from M5 F10.
So, you can upgrade your brake system and do not spend money on the rear caliper. It will be much cheaper for you

Adapters are made of duralumin D16T with anodized oxide coating.
Adapters are supplied with high-strength bolts fastening.

Also in a sets we include front and rear brake hoses - Goodridge.

Also we have another adapters.

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      07-31-2017, 08:33 AM   #147
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While we appreciate knowing there are options for mounting out there, it would be appreciated if you are going to provide information on a brake setup, that you provide a better description. I have no idea what your post says about this option. Are you saying your setup lets a person fit M5 Brakes to a F10? Are you saying M5 rear calipers should not be used on a 550? Or are you saying your product provides adapters for the front AND rear M5 brembo brakes to be used on a 550?

There is a great deal of confusion about adding m5 brakes to a 550 so you should have a more clear description if you would like to drive sales.

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ok

let's start
Now we discuss about installing M5 brake system on your BMW F10(not M5). On any F10

Front axies:
To install front rotor and calipers from M5 to your F10, you only need:
- M5 front Caliper
- M5 front rotos
- M5 front brake pads
- M5 front brake lines
- M5 Bolt of fastening of a rotor to a nave
- and adapters and bolts, that we have

that's all.

Rear axies
to install M5 rear rotors there are two ways:
1) use M5 F10 rear caliper (need to buy for everyone)
2) use your rear caliper from your F10. only one thing: you must have on your BMW rear brake rotor - 345X24. because Disk thickness is 24!!!

the first way is more expensive: you should to buy M5 rear calipers, it's about 1000 euro or more, and rear brake pads from M5

the second way is cheaper. because, if you have on your rear axies brake rotor of 345*24 you can use your rear caliper and rear brake pad with M5 rear rotors.

so, for rear axies we have:
1) first way
- M5 rear caliper
- M5 rear rotors
- M5 rear brake pads
- M5 rear brake lines
- our rear adapters from a post of 2016 year

2) second way
- M5 rear rotors
- M5 rear brake lines
- our rear adapters(Dog-shaped) from a post of today
I wrote the OEM number of a part, that you can check what kind of caliper do you have

So, now it's your decision about rear axies way.

The price is the same for different ways.

Any questions?
thanks
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      09-08-2018, 12:08 PM   #149
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Doing this now on a 550 and can be done with adapter brackets
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      04-23-2020, 10:49 AM   #150
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I need to stop modding my car and wish I never found this
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      04-23-2020, 12:34 PM   #151
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I need to stop modding my car and wish I never found this
I have had Brembo Setup on my 550 for almost two years now with ZERO issues. No problems stopping, no problems with Brake booster, nada. Stops on a dime now.
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      04-23-2020, 12:42 PM   #152
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Also an interesting -point when I did the M5 retrofit too my 2013 550. The caliper HOUSING is IDENTICAL between an M5 and a 550. The only difference is the brake pad holder. SO you can leave your calipers on your car and just swap them out with a different pad housing. Or, you can go with this setup from Tronic who can approach both ways. Replacing Caliper or using the original caliper with different adapter.

NOW, what I DID run into is when I install M5 calipers on the rear of the car, I found the adapter BOLTS did not clear the lower suspension arm by about 3-5 mm. SO I had to grind away about 4mm x 20mm of material from the lower suspension arm where the caliper mounts. There is plenty of meat there and i did not go so deep that I was under the bolt flange head, so no structural risk, just an observation that some of us need some additional modification.

I have a write up under mikekilpatrick that discuss this issue during install

But, in summary, THIS ADAPTER KITS ROCKS! BEST QUALITY of engineering and Tronic KNOWS HIS STUFF! VERY smart guy and I would go to him for ANY kind of metal adapter needs!

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      04-24-2020, 12:41 AM   #153
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Just saw your write up on the install of the M5 calipers and it's great. It also ruled me out as I have 19 inch wheels. Going to wait until the next car.
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      11-22-2020, 06:53 PM   #154
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Out of curiosity,

Has anybody any knowledge whether the knuckles from the M5 work with non-M's?

Is this the question or is it the control arms the difference?
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