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      08-11-2015, 08:47 PM   #111
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Front:245 35 20, Rear:275 30 20..Straight fitment , car is not lowered and there are no issues with full loading or on speed breakers
great pics... but I REALLY would like to see a pic from behind each wheel to see the profile (how stretched) of the sidewall with the tire size on the 20s. I don't want the tall square look and I'm struggling with what to wrap my new CH-Rs with...

so can you snap a few? :-)

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      11-12-2015, 12:26 PM   #112
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Hi, have been following this thread for a couple of weeks now and was also hoping for a definitive answer. However the opportunity to buy a set of OEM 343 wheels and tyres came up and I've bought them, so fitted with 265 /35 fronts and 295 / 30 rears. The fronts fit although quite a snug fit but the rears protrude the arch by a few millimetres and don't look quite right. So it looks like I need to go to either a 275 or 285 section to cure this? I've checked with Michelin and they say the 10" rim is the maximum for the 275, and the 285 is the correct size. I'm just wondering if the 285 is enough of a reduction to fit inside/flush with the arch?

It seems from comments on here both work and whilst I guess the 275's are the safe option I'd like to know if anyone has fitted the 285 / 30 option with no issues and that it does not protrude at all? I want to order the new tyres asap but want to make sure I get it right! Appreciate all the feedback so far but would still welcome any personal experiences, thanks.
after 300 miles on 265/295 setup on Xdrive... conclusion Never run this setup on a Xdrive!!!!!

I put my 245/285 set up on today with the M5 wheels and life is back to normal. The previous setup was most defiantly throwing a few things off. Uneven roads you could feel some of the tires breaking loose or the traction control trying to take over excessively.

I concluded if I ran this any longer my transfer case would be toast. I hope this little trial didn't set me up for any long term issues. maybe if someone could chim in on that.
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      11-19-2015, 11:17 PM   #113
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I'm getting ready to do the same thing with my X drive but 265/295 combination are NOT the same diameter tires so not good for an X drive but 255/295 are same diameter and 245/285 are as well but am still concerned with it looking right for one and two what about rubbing on the rear with 295"s vs 285's (which in PSS is on back order forever) anyone??
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      11-20-2015, 01:21 AM   #114
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I'm getting ready to do the same thing with my X drive but 265/295 combination are NOT the same diameter tires so not good for an X drive but 255/295 are same diameter and 245/285 are as well but am still concerned with it looking right for one and two what about rubbing on the rear with 295"s vs 285's (which in PSS is on back order forever) anyone??
I did not feel anything that had me concerned when I ran the 295's.
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      11-22-2015, 09:36 PM   #115
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I did not feel anything that had me concerned when I ran the 295's.
Ok thanks just wondering did you have m5 wheels if so did you have to use a spacer on the fronts??

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      11-23-2015, 05:48 PM   #116
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I have been running M5 wheels on my 2013 BMW 550i for the past 2 1/2 years. I got the wheels off the brand new M5 in 2013 right when I bought my car new. I have 255/35/20 on the front and 285/30/20 in the back. I had to use spacers in the front with longer lugs and rear didn't need them. My first set of tires were Michelin Pilot Super Sports and I got 13K miles of them. I am currently using Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires and they are great.
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      11-24-2015, 09:09 AM   #117
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Ok thanks just wondering did you have m5 wheels if so did you have to use a spacer on the fronts??

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No, I did not have to use spacers. It is very close to the calipers. I have yet to experience any rubbing or any issues being so close. If you do end up with spacers in the front then you will need extended lugs as well.
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      11-24-2015, 02:50 PM   #118
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I have been running M5 wheels on my 2013 BMW 550i for the past 2 1/2 years. I got the wheels off the brand new M5 in 2013 right when I bought my car new. I have 255/35/20 on the front and 285/30/20 in the back. I had to use spacers in the front with longer lugs and rear didn't need them. My first set of tires were Michelin Pilot Super Sports and I got 13K miles of them. I am currently using Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires and they are great.
Just wondering is yours an X drive and LCI car?? Been trying to figure this out and but I think I know why spacers are needed on some.
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Just wondering is yours an X drive and LCI car?? Been trying to figure this out and but I think I know why spacers are needed on some.
it is an xdrive non LCI 2011 model with out DHP
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it is an xdrive non LCI 2011 model with out DHP
Yea in 2013/14 they changed the caliper in that the long bar on the caliper (wish I had a pic but took my 12 to the dealership and compared) closest to the center of the wheel on mine is dished in and curved if you can visualize, where on a 14 I looked at is just curved and flat not dished in and I assume that's the interference problem on some.
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Yea in 2013/14 they changed the caliper in that the long bar on the caliper (took my 12 to the dealership and compared) closest to the center of the wheel on mine is dished in and curved if you can visualize, where on a 14 I looked at is just curved and flat not dished in and I assume that's the interference problem on some.
Mine is dished and curved around the hub on the caliper bar like top pic and is curved and not dished on lower pic, hopeing that's where the clearance difference is on earlier models.
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      02-15-2016, 06:40 PM   #122
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Can someone who has mounted these 343 M rims on an LCI 550i with XDrive confirm first, whether they needed the 3 or 5mm spacers and then secondly if you did add either of the spacers, was there enough of the hub left to properly mount the tire?
I have a chance to pick up a set of these this week but don't want to waste my time if they can't be mounted correctly. Thanks a lot
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      06-08-2016, 04:44 AM   #123
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I'd like to know it as well. Many thanks.
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      06-13-2016, 10:00 PM   #124
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On my 2012 550ix the front calipers are like the first (top pic above) and the 343 M5 wheel will work with out a spacer but its really close, BUT it hasn't caused any problems. I would guess if your caliper its like the bottom pic you would need a spacer but I can only verify what I have. l'll post a pic of how close it. Hope this helps.
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      06-13-2016, 10:22 PM   #125
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On my 2012 550ix the front calipers are like the first (top pic above) and the 343 M5 wheel will work with out a spacer but its really close, BUT it hasn't caused any problems. I would guess if your caliper its like the bottom pic you would need a spacer but I can only verify what I have. l'll post a pic of how close it. Hope this helps.
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guys,
thank you all for the very useful pics!
my car is lowered with Eibach Pro-Kit springs and I was wondering whether a 255/295 tire setup on the 343M wheels would work w/o rubbing ? the front is lowered 30mm (1.18") and rear 25mm (0.98").
in addition, I guess, I will need 3 or 5 mm spacers for the front because of the calipers being too close to the wheel. Can I use my stock bolts I am currently using on my 19" 351M wheels?
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If your car is a 2012 or older you can bolt the 343 wheels right up with no problems, as shown in an earlier post on the 2013 and later cars you will need to use spacers to clear the front brake calipers. You can run 255/35/20 tires in the front, but you'll rub if you run 295's on the rears. I guess the M5's rear axles are slightly shorter to allow 295's.

I'm lowered on ACS springs and am running 285/30/20's on the rears with no rubbing at all.

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Thanks, Chili. However I thought I read some posts mentioning that 295 on the rears went without rubbing. Ok, I certainly don't want to take any risk of buying wrong tire sizes. As it is a xDrive I would only be allowed to drive either 245/285 or 255/295 due to the almost identical circumference.
My car has a production date Sep 2014 and I made some pics of the calipers today as good as I could. Will post the pics tomorrow.
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Thanks, Chili. However I thought I read some posts mentioning that 295 on the rears went without rubbing. Ok, I certainly don't want to take any risk of buying wrong tire sizes. As it is a xDrive I would only be allowed to drive either 245/285 or 255/295 due to the almost identical circumference.
My car has a production date Sep 2014 and I made some pics of the calipers today as good as I could. Will post the pics tomorrow.
Maybe on a stock height car you can get by with 295's, but they will stick out past the fender lip - I don't like that look. On a lowered car you definitely will rub. If you're creative you can mill the face of the rear hub or the backside of the wheel hub to allow the wheel to sit further in and thus allow enough room to allow a 295 to fit.

I weighed the options and just went with the 285's. Just bolt them up and go.
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Maybe on a stock height car you can get by with 295's, but they will stick out past the fender lip - I don't like that look. On a lowered car you definitely will rub. If you're creative you can mill the face of the rear hub or the backside of the wheel hub to allow the wheel to sit further in and thus allow enough room to allow a 295 to fit.

I weighed the options and just went with the 285's. Just bolt them up and go.
I know what you mean. No, "experiments" to be honest. The Eibach springs are sufficient enough. Yes, a 285 tire should be actually a safe bet. In that case, I would put 245 on the front due to xDrive...

in terms of calipers and how they look on my car, I made few pics (right and left wheel)...do you guys think I would need spacers...
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      08-05-2016, 11:19 AM   #131
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I know what you mean. No, "experiments" to be honest. The Eibach springs are sufficient enough. Yes, a 285 tire should be actually a safe bet. In that case, I would put 245 on the front due to xDrive...in terms of calipers and how they look on my car, I made few pics (right and left wheel)...do you guys think I would need spacers...
If this helps and you haven't already figured this out, the way I figured out whether the 343 wheel would fit was I made a deal with a BMW dealer to order one wheel and send back if needed. When I received it I very carefully put the wheel on the front with no lug nuts to see the fitment. Mine is like .030 to .060 thou clearance on my 12 550 xdrive. I ordered the other 3 and life is good, no issues like chili said. Tires I did Mich PSS 245-35-20 front and 285-30-20 rear.
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I also considering placing a M5 OEM wheel on my 2014 F11 M550d xdrive.
Original tire sizes of M5 are 265/35/20 and 295/30/20 but considering xdrive and needed same wheel diameter the problem is easily solved by the changing the 265 front tire into 255.

They are actually 2 solutions as fas as i see

Front 245/35/20
Rear 285/30/20

Or

Front 255/35/20
Rear 295/30/20

Question is which one is the best, having in mind also having ACS springs installed.

I think the 245/285 option is the best because the car is lowered with ACS springs and i want zero rubbing.

I drive 50000km/year.
I wonder if i need the extra spacers to clear the brake caliper in the front with the M550d F11

A clear picture to compare these tire sizes would be ideal

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