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09-19-2015, 11:09 AM | #1 |
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14-15 535D or 12-13 MB S350 Bluetec?
The prices for these used cars are pretty similar. I know I'll get BMW biased replies here, but I figured I'd ask the question for anyone that may have cross shopped. A little background: I've driven a chipped E320 Bluetec for over 5 years. At one point, I considered trading it for a 335d until all of the CBU issues came to light. I tend to trust MB's reliability more but have found myself drawn to the F10 Diesel.
Some details: Engine: BMW 255HP 413Ft/Lbs inline 6 w/twin scroll MB 240HP 458 Ft/lbs V6 w/twin scroll Weight: BMW 4,085 lbs MB: 4784 lb Suspension BMW: Standard Springs MB: Airmatic Transmission: BMW: ZF8 (universally praised 8 speed, I've had it in a bunch of rental cars and it seems pretty decent). MB: 7g+ (updated mb built 7 speed, I have the original in my E320) Interior: Subjective, but I tend to like BMW's more drivercentric interior Handling: ?? Haven't driven either yet. I assume the BMW is better in this regard, but there have been tons of complaints about how numb the F10 is in general. I know the MB won't be a track car, but I've always found Mercedes' handling to be very competent Gadgets/Infotainment: While MB has more " luxury tech", I feel like they're always a bit outdated from the gadget standpoint. My 2007 E320 Bluetec is rocking a navigation system from the 2002 release, which they continued to use through 2008 on the W211. So I'll open this up for discussion Last edited by DubVBenz; 09-19-2015 at 11:12 AM.. Reason: Added transmission info |
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I haven't driven either of the cars you are looking at but I've driven BMWs and MBs all my driving life. So my comments are general in nature.
You should find the S-class a much more comfortable car but the added weight and less HP will not provide you with the spirited driving you can experience with the BMW. The extra torque will be needed to move the extra weight so they should be a wash once they get going. S class cars perform better at highway speeds, IMHO. Also, the 5 Series should be more accurately compared to the E class, not the S class. The 7 Series would be more accurately compared to the S class. You need to drive both and decide which is better suited to your driving needs. GL
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I appreciate your input. The only reason I'm comparing an S to a 5er is because MB made the stupid decision to discontinue their 6 Cylinder Diesel in the E-Class. While the 2014 E-Class facelift is competitive with the F10, the pre-facelift is not. Unfortunately, 2014+ models only offer the 4 cylinder diesel. |
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09-20-2015, 06:32 AM | #4 | |
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Good luck shopping, I think it's hard to make wrong decision with these two, once you drive them and compare features, usually it's easy decision to make. |
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I recently had a S350 as a rental car in Germany. It was a great highway cruiser, but it was not an F10 in terms of handling. If you take a lot of long trips where you drive in a straight line, then the S350 may be for you. If you like to drive, turns, overtaking, etc. then it is the F10.
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It's no myth. My wife owned a C340 around the same time as I had my 3 series. There was no comparison in the handling difference. I'm not saying that Diamler makes a bad car, it's a good ride, it's just not a Bimmer.
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Don't forget you're on BMW forum, lots of us did cross shop with Benz and ended up here. Since I have no brand loyalty (my first BMW) I went in with fully open mind and also, I wanted pretty badly to like E350. And I did, in most areas, but engine and handling were not it's strong points. S350 could be better and perfect for you, can't really tell for sure, but E was a mayor disappointment for me personally, comparing to both, 5 series and A6 (oh, and Volvo S80 T6 too). |
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Talk about a resurrection ! I ended up with a 2015 MB E400 and did an ECU tune. It's a fun car that embarrasses others. I ended up buying a 1987 560SL, which has become my favorite car of all time. I still have my 2007 OM642 E Bluetec, but it is DPF deleted and tuned and basically undrivable unless you have racing slicks on it. My most recent purchase is a 3L inline 6 diesel GM 1500 that is incredibly fast considering what it is. My next purchase my be one of the last G30 540ds.
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