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06-20-2011, 09:10 PM | #1 |
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Just Venting: why can't I get a real oil dipstick on any BMW
The title says it all. I'll have to head for a 2012 E63 with an old fashioned oil dip-stick.
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06-20-2011, 11:10 PM | #2 |
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It's time for someone to take this opportunity and come up with an easy to install/modify dipstick for the F10. I was looking at the Audi S4 before I bought my car and that one does not come with a dipstick either but you can get one if you want
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06-21-2011, 01:51 AM | #3 |
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You are misinformed -- there is a dipstick on the X5d according to a recent Roundel, and likely on other diesels as well.
I have to admit, I'm a bit confused that you would choose a car based on having a dipstick or not. I read the letters in Roundel and just don't get the vitriol. Then again, with my last 2 cars using 10W60 oil that is hard to find outside of a BMW dealer, I haven't really seriously considered changing my oil in some time.
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Not so easy on this car. |
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I want to be clear that I think BMWs are great, well-engineered cars. Also, this is not the only reason for my leaning toward a 2012 E63; there are a few others. I am an extremely OCD/anal retentive person. I don't want to type too much on this I Pad, but here is the deal: I went to the dealer a couple of weeks ago and explained my concern. The service writer at the BMW dealership agreed with all that I said about the cars most likely being over filled when adhering to the manufacturer's guidance, (residual in the engine, etc.) and that there is no way to EXACTLY confirm with the silly digital gauge. He went on to say that 95%++ of BMW owners come in with a "suit and tie" on, and just want the oil change "taken care of". Though I've done well in life, I grew up working on, racing, and rebuilding cars and have been changing oil for in excess of 34 years. My grandfather, who taught me most of what I know, worked for an oil filter manufacturer for almost 40 years. You could say I'm kind of passionate about this stuff. I would rather run for the life of a vehicle 1/2 qt low than a 1/4 qt high. Most of today's society knows no better, and couldn't care less, just as the service writer implied. I'll die early I'm sure, due to my intensity BUT I want it right, not close.
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From a suit and tie guy who is interested in the oily bits!
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You are referring to the Mercedes, not the 6 series, right? Yeah, that's a sweet car, test drove one just recently.
My Porsche 996 had both a mechanical dipstick and the electronic version. I thought that was great. And they agreed with each other. I think the idea that the electronic oil level detector is inaccurate is based on a falsehood. Don't rely on one person's possibly misinformed opinion to make a decision. My car (F10) was low on oil so I added half a quart, and the new level display correctly showed the addition of half a quart. That's pretty darn accurate in my book. I do agree about the ability to look at the dipstick to gauge oil quality, but if its your car, then you'll know based on mileage and time when you need to change the oil. That's really only handy if looking at a used car and you want to get an idea of the oil condition. IMHO. There are a lot more serious drawbacks to new BMWs to complain about other than the dipstick. No spare tire for instance. Fuel pump issues. Pulling to the right. Etc.
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Oh that's what it is? Couldn't be! Mine's too big to fit in the dip stick opening
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See my related thread: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546454 |
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Worst case scenario, if the level was sufficiently high, it could be contacted by a descending piston under heavy braking or acceleration, resulting in substantial engine damage. |
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06-26-2011, 02:53 AM | #21 | |
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My 1st experience with the "dipstick issue" was when all the idiot lights came on warning of my low oil level from no where. It said I was 1 qt. low, I purchased a quart but through some timely good advice I only filled .5 qt which registered oil level full. I dread at the thought of what it would have read with a full qt added. Half a quart over the line at high speeds, not something I would be too happy about. Singularly the most frustrating part of my current F10 so far.
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06-26-2011, 01:36 PM | #22 |
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This thread pushes me over the threshold, I'm going to attempt my own oil change. My car has no flaws that require it to go back to the dealer, and I am paranoid-oily convinced it will not come back to me in the same condition. I will refer to Gatoman's very helpful DIY
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