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      03-22-2019, 01:36 AM   #23
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I am trying to help a friend retrofitting LED headlights in a pre-LCI F01, replaced FRM and ZGW, but the car has KAFAS1 camera.

Any ideas what to FDL code on the FRM, in order for HBA (High Beam Assist) to work, since it requires KAFAS2?
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      05-10-2019, 07:08 PM   #24
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First, if this was figured out, please let us know.

The KAFAS1 system should work as is. Is HBA not working after LED headlight install? If you look at the wiring diagram, it doesn't seem like the FRM has a different pin out when changed between KAFAS01 and KAFAS02, going to the headlight.

I'd love to know how this is resolved.
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      10-27-2019, 01:14 PM   #25
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Hello Guys!

I recently bought a 535D 2015 and i'm trying to figure out what is required based on what i have to make this conversion. It seems to be a case by case type of thing.

From what i understand i've got a LCI model which make the conversion slightly easier but i dont know about my kafas and stuff like that.

If i provide you my VIN would it be possible to know what is required?

https://www.mdecoder.com/decode/d687106

Thanks for your help!
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      11-05-2019, 12:02 AM   #26
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So I recently retrofitted KAFAS2 with new camera on my pre-LCI car. Even without an emulator, I am able to see the correct speed limit now on my HUD. I have a CIC nav. I'll be getting the new windshield installed this week so the camera can be seated corrected and the heating element for the camera that exists on the windshield glass, has its own wires that go to KAFAS2 module which I've also added.
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      11-07-2019, 01:32 AM   #27
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New windshield installed, camera calibrated, all systems go
I now have fully functioning SLI setup.

Now onwards too FCW retrofit
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      11-07-2019, 01:43 AM   #28
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New windshield installed, camera calibrated, all systems go
I now have fully functioning SLI setup.

Now onwards too FCW retrofit
Wait so what exactly did you retrofit ? Im interested in this, have part numbers ?
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      11-07-2019, 01:44 AM   #29
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New windshield installed, camera calibrated, all systems go
I now have fully functioning SLI setup.

Now onwards too FCW retrofit
I don't have HUD so this retrofit would be x20 harder for me lol
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      11-09-2019, 12:52 PM   #30
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I put the following Diagrams together for my own attempt at converting Pre-LCI Xenon to LCI LED Headlights. I also made one for LCI Xenon to LCI LED.

For those who have already done this conversion, could you chime in if this looks correct? I am going to basically create a harness that can be removed easily to go back to preLCi Xenon so I'm coming up with a wiring harness that will be plug and play (Except for the pins needed for ZGW and for the Footwell Module.

For now, would just love some confirmation that I'm on the right track or if there are glaring errors, please do highlight. Next step is to actually create the harness
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I am in the process of changing from bixenon to adaptive led (prelci) on my bmw f06 2013. Could you please help me with the wiring on the 12pin connector. I have been searching for months no luck however.

bmw f06 2013 (d101625)

original post with pictures

https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=150
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      11-13-2019, 11:13 PM   #31
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Here is the wiring diagram for your car :

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...light/FIbMhCz6

and the connector view to map the wiring to :

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...e5-1b/CTLvOQ3E
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      11-29-2019, 08:44 AM   #32
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Are there any photos? I wanna see the new headlights in the action.
For my experience the my ip birthday wishes tneb answer is: depending by how is your car is equipped.

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      12-07-2019, 08:48 AM   #33
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hello guys, me too with a dear friend of mine, I tried to change from xenon to led on my f10 pre lci, changed frm and zgw, everything works fine except the adaptive headlights, I turn to the right the headlights go to the left, the turning light works correctly but not adaptive, no error in ista. I still have to solve, due to kafas 1, automatic high beams.
tips on what to watch? frm is a new zgw used
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      03-15-2020, 02:33 AM   #34
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Hi,

Does someone have the partnumbers for the:

- Headlight connector male and female
- Pin male (small and big)
- Pin female (small/big)

Would ike to make an adapater cable, but not sure if the male version of the connector is available.

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      03-16-2020, 12:46 PM   #35
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The headlight connectors and contacts are these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/61132359991...4383.l4275.c10

The Male pins are on the connector. on the headlight but doesn't really have a bmw part number. The part number I found is the TE connectivity part number: 1-452337-1
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      03-17-2020, 03:06 AM   #36
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Thanks. Indeed ordered a kit already.

Looking at my wiring diagram I will convert the current connector pinout to the new pinout. I have a SA522 (xenon) that I would like to convert to SA524 (adaptive xenon). Led was a little too expensive, because I need additional modules next to the headlights which will crank up the total costs significantly.

Thanks
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Here is a comprehensive DIY for LED headlight retrofit by an awesome member over on the X3 site. This should almost apply identically to F10 except where the X3 uses 2x pairs of KCAN3 wires where as F10s use single pair in pins 9 and 10.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...0#post25935910
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Here is a comprehensive DIY for LED headlight retrofit by an awesome member over on the X3 site. This should almost apply identically to F10 except where the X3 uses 2x pairs of KCAN3 wires where as F10s use single pair in pins 9 and 10.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...0#post25935910
Thanks very helpful. Seems that indeed the F10 only uses 1 pair KCAN3 signals for the normal adaptive headlights. Also the pinout of the 12pin headlight connector is a little different.
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Thanks very helpful. Seems that indeed the F10 only uses 1 pair KCAN3 signals for the normal adaptive headlights. Also the pinout of the 12pin headlight connector is a little different.

Pinout is identical on headlight connector except for KCAN3 in 11-12 position added in x3 (wiring screen shots attached top is F10, bottom is F25)
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Pinout is identical on headlight connector except for KCAN3 in 11-12 position added in x3 (wiring screen shots attached top is F10, bottom is F25)
Pin3 seems different for my car (prelci) F10. Pin3 comes from the FRM3. Other signals seem to match indeed.

Pin3 is the xenon lamp 56BL (2.5mm2) power. Shutter for high beam is controlled by TMS module over the KCAN3.

Applicable SA524 compared to SA522.
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Pin3 seems different for my car (prelci) F10. Pin3 comes from the FRM3. Other signals seem to match indeed.

Pin3 is the xenon lamp 56BL (2.5mm2) power. Shutter for high beam is controlled by TMS module over the KCAN3.

Applicable SA524 compared to SA522.

Correct that Pre-LCI cars get main power from FRM. LEDs get from Junction box and Rear Fuse Box.

I'm putting a complete new harness so I can revert to pre-lci by swapping out to the original FRM module and reconnecting original headlight harness/connections, so as to not have to re-pin the connectors on the headlights.

Only two lines need to be replaced on the FRM for what I'm doing, for all other pins to FRM and ZGW I am adding the connections as needed along with all the new power and ground cables needed.
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Pinout is identical on headlight connector except for KCAN3 in 11-12 position added in x3 (wiring screen shots attached top is F10, bottom is F25)
The additional KCAN3 wires on pin 11/12 are needed to connect the two internal modules over CAN outside the headlight unit. The F10 seems to have the modules connected internally, hence no need for additional connections.

Funny is that pin9/10 have a different function is you code the car with SA522 compared to SA524, where it has additional modules (TMS Left and Right) in the ECU list for SA524 via the CAN bus on these same pins.
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      03-19-2020, 12:57 PM   #43
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Here is a comprehensive DIY for LED headlight retrofit by an awesome member over on the X3 site. This should almost apply identically to F10 except where the X3 uses 2x pairs of KCAN3 wires where as F10s use single pair in pins 9 and 10.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...0#post25935910
YIKES!!!! Two THOUSAND dollars for this mod? I'll keep my HID/XENON lights.
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Correct that Pre-LCI cars get main power from FRM. LEDs get from Junction box and Rear Fuse Box.

I'm putting a complete new harness so I can revert to pre-lci by swapping out to the original FRM module and reconnecting original headlight harness/connections, so as to not have to re-pin the connectors on the headlights.

Only two lines need to be replaced on the FRM for what I'm doing, for all other pins to FRM and ZGW I am adding the connections as needed along with all the new power and ground cables needed.
Hmmm, I am a bit lost now. I have a F11 06-2013 (PreLCI) 5 serie with currently the SA522 (bi-Xenon) installed. One of my headlight broke and moisture got in. Therefore I swtiched them for the Adaptive versions (SA524), but I need to add a couple of wires.

Now when I look at the wiring diagrams I see that up to 06-2013 (prelci) the KCAN3 bus is not connected to pin 9/10. Initially I thought that I only had to add the CL (Cornering Lights) wires (pin6) and code the card to SA524. But that did not work. So I started to think that I do need the KCAN3 wires to actually steer the TMS modules.

From the diagrams I see that the pin 9/10 KCAN3 are needed when the car is a LCI (07.2013+) car.

What is the right AHL Xenon wiring diagram now for my pre-lci headlights with an FRM3?

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