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      09-11-2021, 02:21 PM   #111
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Checo ?
He should take his helmet off , and throw a sombrero on his head .

Not even for once , he was able to pull a Red Bull race strategy...
Too bad for MAX !
Hmmm….I seem to recollect at the beginning of the season you posting about how great (or posts to that effect) Checo would be at RBSR
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Well I must say it worked out well for Max being on pole for tomorrows race,I guess Wolf's plan backfired today heheh.
The Mercedes PU suffers from 'Clipping at Monza ...

Pulling out of a corner , the Mercedes warp-speed is bullet fast !
But ..According the GPS data ..
They run out of boost on the end of the Monza long straights ...

There's 'Too much (cheating) cold air in the Merc's plenum walls

And in the end MAX was closing (in the dirt air) the gap vs BOT !

It's the first time since the Hybride era , that a Red Bull can start from the pole at Monza !
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Hmmm….I seem to recollect at the beginning of the season you posting about how great (or posts to that effect) Checo would be at RBSR
Negative , we were hoping for that !
But ...
You Merc fans and you HAM preachers said that Checo would beat MAX !

Ohhh...C'mon guys ! LMFAO
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We should all know by now, Checo only shows up on race day. Though this circuit will really test his passing ability because such long straights.

But that's the beauty of F1 right? Every circuit is different, which tests every team every weekend. I love F1.
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AND most importantly starting from an INHERITED pole,
Yes it seems that BOT now taking the penalty for a new PU might have been a tactical error.
OF course he got 3 points from the sprint race, but that only helps him and mercs WCC but not HAM.

If BOT had started from pole tomorrow, he could have held up the field so giving HAM more chance to overtake the mercs.
Now they have to think something up with undercut pitstops etc, but that is not MERC's specialty. Tactics wise they are a very weak team. They make a lot of mistakes.
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Bottas provides scathing comment about Merc strategy

Alan Baldwin – Reuters

Question: Valtteri, the talk after yesterday’s qualifying was all about team orders and how you would likely have to give the win to Lewis today. Obviously that didn’t happen. Just how were you feeling about that, before the start and obviously as the race progressed?

Bottas: It would not have been the first time for me, obviously and the situation with the championship, for us… In an ideal world we would have both got a good start. Possibly we would have swapped positions if it was safe, for obvious reasons, but yeah, Lewis had a bad start and that of course is not great for him, not great for us as a team in terms of points but that gave me an opportunity to win the sprint which is obviously, for me personally, is nice that I could race.

It’s going to be an interesting season for Merc. Bottas appears to be unleashed in a very Finnish way.
Text doesn’t do it justice, watch the post sprint press conference.
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Negative , we were hoping for that !
But ...
You Merc fans and you HAM preachers said that Checo would beat MAX !

Ohhh...C'mon guys ! LMFAO
Firstly as I've often pointed out I am no fan of Lewis, secondly I drive & always have (other than my 1967 Beetle) a BMW, I dislike Mercedes & their drivers almost as much as people that drive diesel coupes or convertibles & lastly I don't recall posting that Checo would be faster than Max.

I would quite like Max to win this season's drivers Championship but some of yours & Ricks post about constant conspiracy theories & posts about cheating with nothing to back any of it other than what you've read in some F1 rag or another just gets my goat, admittedly some of it was ammusing a while ago but now....it's just boring & kinda reminds me of that guy who used to post all that conspiracy stuff in the PR section


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We should all know by now, Checo only shows up on race day. Though this circuit will really test his passing ability because such long straights.

But that's the beauty of F1 right? Every circuit is different, which tests every team every weekend. I love F1.
A sprint race is also a race ...
Checo screwed it up while he overtook Stroll . And he was told to give back the place after leaving the track to overtake Lance Stroll .

Checo makes too much beginners mistakes ..
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Too bad GAS wasn't in position to take Hammy with him into the gravel

That would have made my day

Dem Ferrari's weren't looking too bad

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The Mercedes PU suffers from 'Clipping at Monza ...

Pulling out of a corner , the Mercedes warp-speed is bullet fast !
But ..According the GPS data ..
They run out of boost on the end of the Monza long straights ...

There's 'Too much (cheating) cold air in the Merc's plenum walls

And in the end MAX was closing (in the dirt air) the gap vs BOT !

It's the first time since the Hybride era , that a Red Bull can start from the pole at Monza !
Clipping, those Mercs are harvesting energy ''too'' much rather than using it effectively and suffering at the end of that straight.
Not something nasa can fix overnight
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/93829...in-sprint.html
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Checo ?
He should take his helmet off , and throw a sombrero on his head .

Not even for once , he was able to pull a Red Bull race strategy...
Too bad for MAX !
His Red Bull race strategy got Max into 3rd for the sprint race which gave him pole for tomorrow. I'd say he did his job.

Maybe Red Bull's strategy is different from yours.
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Wolff states sprint start was not normal for Ham,perhaps now it is.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/93820...plink=onderaan
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Max doubts Ham's prediction that he will have an 'easy' race from pole and wary of Merc threat even with Ham starting fourth.
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen...e-an-easy-race
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Too bad GAS wasn't in position to take Hammy with him into the gravel

That would have made my day

Dem Ferrari's weren't looking too bad
If HAM pulls another bad start like he pulled today ..
He will get the 2 reds along him !

The Wolf just said that HAM was sleeping behind his steering wheel !

And there's more ...
If Mercedes is planning for an early pitstop , they have to run in too much of dirty air !
So they won't ... And by this they will get steering wheel vibrations on the long straights .
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His Red Bull race strategy got Max into 3rd for the sprint race which gave him pole for tomorrow. I'd say he did his job.

Maybe Red Bull's strategy is different from yours.
Indeed , Checo gave MAX a great tow . It was really necessary because the Mercs speedtrap was 10-15 km/h faster on the long straights .

But from what we saw over the whole season , Checo wasn't able to give Red Bull a race strategy during the race .

And today during the sprint race , Checo made a beginners mistake .
It is known that Checo struggles with the RB16-B ..
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Clipping, those Mercs are harvesting energy ''too'' much rather than using it effectively and suffering at the end of that straight.
Not something nasa can fix overnight
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/93829...in-sprint.html
Exactly my friend
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Negative , we were hoping for that !
But ...
You Merc fans and you HAM preachers said that Checo would beat MAX !

Ohhh...C'mon guys ! LMFAO

Yes. Got a $100 Bet on it for sure.
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Negative , we were hoping for that !
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You Merc fans and you HAM preachers said that Checo would beat MAX !

Ohhh...C'mon guys ! LMFAO
Maybe if it was a fair fight. But RB will always handicap Checo.
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Maybe if it was a fair fight. But RB will always handicap Checo.
RB is still delivering Checo the best year he had in his entire career the way things are going now.
Despite Checo making some avoidable errors the last few races.
So I don't think RB is handicapping Checo. He was also happy to sign another year.
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Man Lewis shit the bed today.

Go MCL!!!!
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Bad photoshop by F1

F1 put bottas on Max. They need to hire a new intern.
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