[T-Bone18]

Hi guys, planning to change my summer tire and I want something descent at a reasonable price.
I do not track my F10, it's BM3 Stage 2 with the stock brake system.
I want the most traction, most braking under $1000US

My research show I am between those two, does anybody have experience with these ?
Michelin Pilot A/S 3+ 98Y VS the Firestone Indy 500 98W ?

Also I was thinking to go 275/35/19 in the back and 245/40/19 in the front.

I think the Michelin is a better quality tire, not too sure if I can trust the Indy 500 when doing a top speed over150mph

[cdmulders]

Originally Posted by T-Bone18

Hi guys, planning to change my summer tire and I want something descent at a reasonable price.
I do not track my F10, it's BM3 Stage 2 with the stock brake system.
I want the most traction, most braking under $1000US

My research show I am between those two, does anybody have experience with these ?
Michelin Pilot A/S 3+ 98Y VS the Firestone Indy 500 98W ?

Also I was thinking to go 275/35/19 in the back and 245/40/19 in the front.

I think the Michelin is a better quality tire, not too sure if I can trust the Indy 500 when doing a top speed over150mph

If you are going with a summer tire, why compromise with an all-season Michelin? Go for a Pilot Sport 4S or similar. Regarding your staggered setup idea, I have the older Michelin Pilot Super Sports in the staggered sizes you propose, and I've been running them for four summers so far without any issues at all.

[T-Bone18]

Originally Posted by cdmulders

If you are going with a summer tire, why compromise with an all-season Michelin? Go for a Pilot Sport 4S or similar. Regarding your staggered setup idea, I have the older Michelin Pilot Super Sports in the staggered sizes you propose, and I've been running them for four summers so far without any issues at all.

The 4s are amazing.
The Indy 500 are just too much of a good value for what I do.

[Surly73]

Don't discount the Pilot Sport All Season 4 if they come in your size. They're supposed to be quite remarkable and may extend your "summer tire" season by weeks or months at the edges of the season where it's cold but not necessarily snowy or icy. I'm seriously thinking about it when my 4S are done, and I haven't owned a set of all season tires since 2001.

It seems like the PSAS4 may be as good a summer tire as PS2s even though they are "all season" based on some things I've seen out there.

https://www.michelin.ca/en/auto/tire...t-all-season-4

[T-Bone18]

Originally Posted by Surly73

Don't discount the Pilot Sport All Season 4 if they come in your size. They're supposed to be quite remarkable and may extend your "summer tire" season by weeks or months at the edges of the season where it's cold but not necessarily snowy or icy. I'm seriously thinking about it when my 4S are done, and I haven't owned a set of all season tires since 2001.

It seems like the PSAS4 may be as good a summer tire as PS2s even though they are "all season" based on some things I've seen out there.

https://www.michelin.ca/en/auto/tire...t-all-season-4

Well that is too. I have a winter beater but I drive the F10 until snow late December + this winter when the pavement was dry with no salt with few sunny days, I had few ride here and there with my Pirelli All-Season (Came with the car when I bough it) So yes I still consider the Michelin, otherwise with the summer tire, once it start to get near 7 degree in October, the traction really sucks sometimes.

I like that the Michelin last longer too 20 000KM more is huge, but as long I get tracking.
I'm in Ottawa and we don't see alot of people who wants to race at a red light anyway, my pull are mostly on the highway. Otherwise with the F10 when driving in the city, I need distance between stop sign, the car feel too big to drive fast for a stop and go.

The one you mention does not fit in my size.

What do you think of the A/S 3+ 98Y ?

[ChiNorm]

"What do you think of the A/S 3+ 98Y ?"

I like them a lot, but only for three seasons. Snow traction is underwhelming.

[T-Bone18]

Originally Posted by ChiNorm

"What do you think of the A/S 3+ 98Y ?"

I like them a lot, but only for three seasons. Snow traction is underwhelming.

Yes of course, I don't drive the car between December 15th to March 15.

Do you find they have enough traction compare to a good summer tire ?

[Sylverlee]

I went from summer hankooks to A/S 3+. Lose a
tiny bit of performance for what I’m expecting much longer life. I literally got 9k miles on the rear for summer tires. It just got too much... I’m happy with the change. It’s also just my daily

[T-Bone18]

Originally Posted by Sylverlee

I went from summer hankooks to A/S 3+. Lose a
tiny bit of performance for what I’m expecting much longer life. I literally got 9k miles on the rear for summer tires. It just got too much... I’m happy with the change. It’s also just my daily

9k Miles is not much.
Did you go square or staggered tire with the Michelin ?
I'm thinking to go square to improve overall tire wear and life.

[gr8brwnshark]

I just got a set of a/s 3+ 255/35/20 + 285/30/20 and I'm pretty happy with them especially after switching from pilot sport summer track tires. Doing around 120 seems pretty nice and smooth and grip overall has been pretty solid.

[cdmulders]

Originally Posted by T-Bone18

Yes of course, I don't drive the car between December 15th to March 15.

What is your winter vehicle? I drove my xDrive through three Ottawa winters with good snow tires, and it was unstoppable! We'd get 40cm of snow (15") and I would still go anywhere even before the plows got to our street in the 'burbs. I guess I'm saying that if you are going to go with summer or all season tires, then if you had a good set of winter tires as well, you'd have an all-weather car good at everything. Sorry in advance for the side-track of this thread.

[T-Bone18]

Originally Posted by cdmulders

What is your winter vehicle? I drove my xDrive through three Ottawa winters with good snow tires, and it was unstoppable! We'd get 40cm of snow (15") and I would still go anywhere even before the plows got to our street in the 'burbs. I guess I'm saying that if you are going to go with summer or all season tires, then if you had a good set of winter tires as well, you'd have an all-weather car good at everything. Sorry in advance for the side-track of this thread.

No worries body. I have Xdrive too, but I think it's crazy to drive such a beautiful car with all the salt we got. I still drive my old 2007 Honda Civic Si with 300k during the winter time. I always had two car, which is nice for dirty jobs. Driving a car that you don't care about paint scratch and dirty floor, etc is a different feeling than the F10 where I got worries when someone park next to me.

[Sylverlee]

Originally Posted by T-Bone18

9k Miles is not much.
Did you go square or staggered tire with the Michelin ?
I'm thinking to go square to improve overall tire wear and life.

Im on m5 343 wheels. 20 inch

[T-Bone18]

Originally Posted by Sylverlee

Im on m5 343 wheels. 20 inch

Did you install wider tire in the back ?
I like the 343 wheel alot

[Sylverlee]

Originally Posted by T-Bone18

Did you install wider tire in the back ?
I like the 343 wheel alot

Yes it is staggered.

[ChiNorm]

Originally Posted by T-Bone18

Yes of course, I don't drive the car between December 15th to March 15.

Do you find they have enough traction compare to a good summer tire ?

I have never broken traction on these tire and their cornering limit exceeds mine.

Good luck.

[T-Bone18]

Originally Posted by ChiNorm

I have never broken traction on these tire and their cornering limit exceeds mine.

Good luck.

Cornering with a 5 series is kind of crazy in the street. It feel big and fast coming in the corner with automatic transmission. I miss my manual shifting when the car slow down during downshifting with compression. I find the automatic transmission is a very very different ride in the corner + the steering a lot bigger, I miss driving a smaller car already. I'm already starting saving money for a M2 manual transmission or maybe I need to go with the H&R spring + Xhp

[ChiNorm]

I have KW V3 coilovers, the car corners flat with very little understeer. This is not the typical F10 and complimented by the AS3+. They go back on the car in two weeks.

[T-Bone18]

Originally Posted by ChiNorm

I have KW V3 coilovers, the car corners flat with very little understeer. This is not the typical F10 and complimented by the AS3+. They go back on the car in two weeks.

Wow I am jealous, I hear good thing about these coilovers.
Thx for the info, more than likely I will go with the A/S 3+ 98Y.
Next thing I have to decide is if I want to go with 275 in the back or square.