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10-26-2015, 11:48 PM | #1 |
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F10 Night Vision Retrofit DIY
Okay, finishing up the surround view install on my 2013 F10. Not a hard job, just tedious for running the camera wires along factory wiring harness.
next project... NIGHT VISION!
Trying to find out what exactly I need and if someone put the part numbers together for the retrofit. Let me know. Thanks in advance. Last edited by mikekilpatrick; 08-22-2017 at 09:06 AM.. |
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Obtained the front Flir Camera, still looking for a DIY retrofit guide like the E60 had or a parts list from someone who did this.
List So Far: Night Vision Camera and ECU MUST BE FROM same donor car! REALOEM.com for compatible part numbers and then call recycle yards for parts. You can pay about 10-15 dollars on some sites and they will send out a national request. Much cheaper than EBay. ECU behind Light switch -12148610680 (retail new) Vin is coded to it Array of Driver Assistance buttons, incl NiVi on/off, complete set and caps needs to be snapped on within the correct sequence according your car's options -HSD+2 cable insert MQS-12 connector covering cap MQS-12 connector inserts MQS-12 Water tubing front complete incl NiVi outled Waterjet NiVi bracket Screw jet to bracket Fixing bolt NVE - to have the ecu fixed to the car's bracket. Snap lock to be installed into the car's bracket (behind the headlight switch). New airguide with NiVi bracket cut-out New Front Grills (have to be painted black as they come in silver) Left 51137203203 $71.69 Right 51137203204 $68.28 Here are steps with pics of cables: You plug the short black Y cable into it (marked 1 on photo 1). One of the two ends of this splitter Y cable has a plug with two wires (yellow/white and blue/black) going to it (as seen on image 5, the left plug of two alongside). This plug indeed can be cut off and extended with regular wire all the way up to pins 9 and 10 of socket A80*1B on the NV module - which is the black rectangular 12pin socket. The other connector of this Y cable splitter shall not be cut off. You won't be able to extend it this way, as the signal most likely will be lost to a special design of the cable (despite the electrical connections being good). Instead it must be connected to the NV modules A80*2B black roundish socket with a extension cable terminated with appropriate plugs at both ends. It seems like cable 2 from image 1 would be good for this if it wasn't missing a plug at one end :-( I cant see if cable 3 from image one would be good nor if it has any connectors. A80*3B is the white socket on the NV module and it outputs the signal to the HU. So the following statement you made is generally true: a single wiring harness from the front camera to the ECU. (made of the Y cable and extensions to the ECU) Build a second harness from the Night vision ECU to the Control unit to turn night vision on and off. (I would rephrase this - From the NV ECU through the Activation module to the ZGW) Then a third harness from the NV ECU over to the factory NAV head unit. and the NV power cable. Images NV_FXX and Night_4 pretty much explain the wiring now when you know which plug on the NV is which. Last edited by mikekilpatrick; 11-03-2020 at 08:28 AM.. |
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Surround view is worth every penny. Pretty simple installation, but takes some time. Have to replace Both side mirrors (Else you have to purchase every outer piece to convert standard mirrors over to Surround mirrors, Best best is ebay) Run cable from mirror to door harness on each side, then run from door harness to rear backup camera ecu. Rear ECU has to be replaced with Surround ECU. Use REALOEM.com to identify proper part numbers. Then just have car coded by either Bimmertech.net or independent coder.
Bimmertech sells complete kit if you want to buy the whole thing from them. Night Vision I am currently figuring out wiring harness with assistance of Bimmertech, have to get a emulator to fool car to seeing night vision. IF car is not built with Night vision, you cannot retrofit it without an emulator. When Installing night vision, you MUST purchase Camera and ECU from SAME car. Best bet to obtain this is to go online, and do a parts search for junk yards. Some sites will charge 5 or 10 dollars to put your request out on the network and then you will get responses. Since Night Vision is part of the OEM harness normally, you have to custom build the harness with OEM BMW wires and connectors. Paladin 8026 which is crimp tool and die for under 100 dollars will make the wiring much easier. If you search the forums on surround view, you will find tips I have listed as well as others. Last edited by mikekilpatrick; 08-14-2017 at 12:27 AM.. |
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ECU http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-66539219...JXWHh3&vxp=mtr
Need this for center Console for surround view http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-GEAR-MOD...NXh1RT&vxp=mtr Surround view and side view cameras all have SAME connection port http://www.ebay.com/itm/Side-View-Dr...ZXbD1-&vxp=mtr |
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04-20-2017, 11:48 AM | #8 |
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F10 Night Vision
Greetings,
I am just beginning the same project and would appreciate collaborating with you. I have the majority of the parts needed to begin including the matched ECU and NV camera, some original cables from the donor vehicle and just ordered/received the needed Night Vision Activator from Car Systems. Send me a PM if you are interested. V/r, FRANK |
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http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthre...=surround+view search forums for surround view DIY, i think i posted pics when I did it. BMW has replacement procedure for camera cables which basically walk you through procedure as well |
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OK, NIGHT VISION IS FINALLY BEING FINISHED!!! WOOO HOOOO. I have spent the past several months finding the stinking right Wiring harness from "Y" connector that comes from NV Camera in grill over the the Drivers side wheel well. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE knew what harness to buy to connect the Y connection back into the Passenger compartment. Well, I ordered 5 different harnesses from our friends at www.getbmwparts.com and Jason worked with me to order these puppies from Germany and then let me return the ones that did not work. Mind you, I have been doing business with them for over ten years so they were really giving on this. The end result is now you can plug and play the HSD harness for the camera and with a BMW REPAIR kit (about 5.00 dollars), you can build the female end on the second part of the Y harness. Then run everything along factory harness (Cut Zip ties and then put them back in with new wires) and run everything into the car!
I found that you have to get to the central control module in the footwell and then pop out pin 46 and 47 for the Can Bus, build a new pin connection with 2 wires instead of the OEM one, and start plugging everything in! TWO FREAKING years I have been researching, looking for parts, Locating Double slotted M5 grills that are painted black and then figuring out the NV camera enclosure for fitting a LCI NV grill to a Pre LCI vehicle. BUT IT IS ALMOST DONE NOW!! I have located a person to source many of the parts from near Germany at a lower cost, Figured out how to obtain NV camera and ECU (MUST BE FROM SAME CAR for a retrofit), Located every single cable to make it look OEM and then do the wiring so not even the dealer can tell it is a retrofit. Have been taking pictures along the way and have cleared up MANY MANY MANY questions that I have not seen ANYONE else go into detail upon. But this retrofit, ONCE you get the details figures out, is really not that hard. Yes, you have to pull the front bumper, yes, you have to replace the air guide in the front end, Yes, you have to build parts of your harnesses, but this was not as hard as the Surround view retrofit. As soon as I finish wiring tomorrow, and I have it coded by BimmerTech, I will post pictures of it. This retrofit IS doable and not that hard once you get clear instructions and figure things out. Only THREE more projects and only after three years will my F10 Msport, Dinan 550, be finally completed. |
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Looking forward to your DIY...
Question, If I already have surround view; would I need to purchase any additional control modules? Looking at the ebay links you posted, I already have the center console controls and should have the ECU since my car has reverse, side view and top view...I think I just need the front face camera. Also, dumb question; can the night vision camera be used in the day time? like for help parking so I can watch out for parking blocks? Thats what I really want it for.
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Took a long to research all OEM cables and parts, wiring then took more time and I finally had to make sure everything was routed neatly and looks OEM. But Night vision went live this past weekend! Long road but success is sweet.
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as you have fixed for the code fsc app id 0x04 and 0x05? I am trying to retrofit NIVI on my F11 with the right emulaor ..... I know that the ECU and CAMERA must be from the same car so with FSC just enabled for one VIN. |
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Yes I obtained the camera and ECU from same car. EBay costs too much, if someone else is doing this project, google recycle yards on the web and you can put out a parts request, based on your model, for something like 10 or 20 dollars. You will then get multiple junk yards calling you back with prices on parts. I had what I Needed in 2 days after spending months looking on eBay. The emulator I purchased was from BimmerTech and then I had them code it for me.
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Finished my Surround view this past weekend and everything is working great. Putting this together so part numbers and any questions can be posted and I can answer since I did all of this myself. Have to replace both side mirrors with Surround view camera mirrors. 4 cables, 4 Cameras, ECU, front mounts. Bumper does NOT need to be removed for install, just remove the front fender skirts and front wheels. BMW Marks the front bumper with exactly where to drill the holes for the cameras. 01 Side-view camera 2 66539240352 02 BRACKET LEFT 1 51117207921 02 BRACKET RIGHT 1 51117207922 03 Fillister head screw 4 07149166316 For vehicles with Side View Camera S5DKA=Yes 04 Wiring harness, Side View Camera 2 61119182329 i For vehicles with Backup camera and Top View or Surround View S3AHA=Yes S5DLA=Yes 01 ECU for Top Rear Side View camera 1 07/2014 66539302258 ENDED 01 ECU for Top Rear Side View camera 1 07/2015 66539350997 01 ECU for Top Rear Side View camera 1 66539393952 02 Hex nut M5 2 07129906048 $0.73 |
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NV Module is behind your Headlight and Glove Compartment on left side of steering Wheel. Remove headlight switch assembly, Remove glove compartment and then you will see a metal bracket where the NV module attaches to the car with a 10 MM Bolt.
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Dude that’s a kick ass feature def wanna see how this night vision mod end |
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