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02-08-2019, 02:13 PM | #1 |
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N20 seized engine - Oil pressure error threw. Car shut down 1 minute later
So driving on the highway yesterday, my F10 2012 threw an oil pressure error. Basically told me to stop the car.
I drove for maybe 50 seconds then the car threw another error: drivetrain error, car will shut off, may roll and not be able to get into neutral. Didn't start after that. Question is: is the engine toast? Is there an automatic engine shut down mechanism that activates to prevent engine damage? How long can a car run without engine oil before ruining the engine? ALSO: no low oil errors at all in the past few weeks. Engine started sounding a little rough 2 weeks ago. Towed to BMW. Still waiting, would like your input. Last edited by nos4seasons; 02-21-2019 at 02:30 PM.. |
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Hopefully you are within 7 years and 70k miles from your purchase. Sounds like a timing chain and guide failure. BMW extended the coverage for this to 7yrs/70k and will replace the timing chain and plastic guides, and perhaps the engine if its toast. How many years/miles on yours?
Btw, I just got mine replaced just under warranty by a few days. Mine didn't blow up like yours, but I heard the whine that let me to believe this was the issue. |
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But this is good input. I'm sure costly repair if even possible.... |
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Do you use the auto start stop feature? |
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SIB 11 03 17 Here is a link to educate yourself: https://bmwtechnician.com/2017/08/02...-bmw-bulletin/ On its own, changing the timing chain and guides would be a $4k job, but if it killed your engine you are looking at $8k for a new one. Good luck and keep us posted |
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I know someone got error that related to the timing chain guide at 73k miles. Dealer helped to deal with BMW-NA and finally paying $1800 to replace.
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Mine was no questions asked but i was just within warranty, and nothing broke. i heard the signs and took it in and the dealer said it was the timing chain guides and applied the SIB I gave you. Make sure you make them aware that you know about the SIB and the issues with these timing chain guides. Good luck and keep us posted. |
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Well. BMW says needs new engine. Oil pump malfunctioned, or something similar, and they're saying 11K cost on engine. This is the absolute worst case scenario. I mean. BMW corporate out of the question now? Sigh. Please advise.
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So sorry to hear this. You have to wonder if the oil pump failure wasn't somehow related to the recall issues? A total engine failure at 74k is pretty crazy - seems like even if this is not timing chain related it's a good case for some good will relief from BMW.
Back in the day, my 1993 318i, the head gasket started leaking at about 55,000 miles and BMW handled it 100% as goodwill. There were no active recalls etc. at the time in my case, so you never know until you give it a try. Last edited by philipm785; 02-11-2019 at 02:04 PM.. Reason: typo |
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Thats tough man. Did they say anything about a good will coverage by BMW? If you have no maintenance records and haven't taken care of the car, you may be SOL, but doesn't hurt to try
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What exactly do you mean by this? No oil changes, oil changes after 2 years? Ignoring low oil warning? Oil pumps usually fail if oil is not maintained properly.
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